So, in conclussion going to the negotiation table would end up as a massive waste of time for the factions, and Horde would end up having to surrender unconditionally or else (heck, and even with such surrender the guarantees Nelves and other Alliance races donât genocide Horde is not certain)âŠ
Ok, I doubt any ârealisticalâ nation would vouch for this option willingly⊠As usual Baine once again proves himself as the idiot uncaring forhis people while confronted with making his Alliance buddies feel satisfied.
Additionally, the comment you made is ignorant of the context of TOW, where the writer bent over backwards to create a sense of a ceasefire,
ToW never says there was a ceasefire.
created a scenario where the Alliance only attacked Taurajo because they received false intel that the Horde was planning to attack them from there,
The Alliance invaded the Barrens (And elsewhere) unprovoked. That the information they launched this invasion under was false doesnât change the fact that they set up shop and never left. If the Alliance wanted peace, they should have pulled out when they had the chance.
If you consider the context established in BtS, Gennâs actions in Stormheim damned the Forsaken every bit as much as Sylvanas did to the Night Elves with Teldrassil. Moreso even, as the threat of rotting away into nothing affects every single Forsaken, while at least many Night Elves made it to safety. In that sense, Genn proved to be an existential threat to the Forsaken right then and there.
If I remember correctly, Garrosh quietly killing people who went against his preferred view of the Horde was a huge problem for Baine. And now here he is secretly killing members of the Horde and justifying it by saying theyâre loyal to Sylvanas.
Except maybe the military, but the civilian populace is certainly pretty dead.
That said, I like your attempts at softening up what was obviously a mass murder whereas Genn just got payback for an attempted mass murder on his people. Nice touch there.
You realize that isnât in contradiction with what I said, right?
If Genn wanted payback, he should never have agreed to peace with the Horde at the end of MoP. But again, as BtS portrays the Forsaken, theyâre constantly falling apart and becoming increasingly frail. By screwing up Sylvanasâ plans in Stormheim, Genn effectively sentenced every single Forsaken to a slow degrading death.
Genn didnât attack in Stormheim out of some effort to protect Eyir. He did it for revenge, and just as he says was his intention, his actions stole the Forsakenâs future.
Thatâs what Odyn believed, so I donât see why turnabout isnât fair play.
I think Odyn never suffered any repercussions or moral affronts from anyone in any of the factions for his beliefs and actions, so thereâs really no basis for anyone objecting to Sylvanas stealing his servants to give her people a better existence.
Part of the problem is that the game has been vague on what a Forsakenâs normal lifespan is, if theyâre not killed in battle. The designers may not actually have decided this.
To be honest in any realistic scenario both the Taurens and Blood Elves would be abandonning the Horde right about now.
The Alliance has no real problem with these two groups. The orcs, trolls and the undead on the otherhand is a different story.
Aside from it being in the middle of a war in which said servants were needed to keep the Valarjar fighting the Burning Legion.
The whole situation was moronic because it was Sylvanas and Genn both engaging in sectarian nonsense, undermining the actions of those seeking to defend Azeroth as the world burned around them.
In any realistic scenario Azeroth would be free from most playable races and there would not had been any idiotic wars post WC3 (the way Stormind, Orgrimmar et al pump out soldiers from who knows were is the very first incoherence with the whole narrative)
That might not be true. Sylvanasâ Valâkyr were winterskorn Vrykul ladies, but their culture goes back to Odyn. Sylvanas probably understands them quite well considering she knew how to find Helya.
It certainly might not be true. I just donât think thereâs a lot of evidence. I mean, Genn didnât even know there were Valkyr there until somewhat further into their presence in Stormheim.
True that. Sylvanas is probably the only faction character with any insight at all whatsoever on it all⊠and of course they donât tell us what she knows.