(Spoilers) Ardenweald, Tyrande, Elune and Sylvanas

[Cantaloupe-wyrmrest-accord (Cantaloupe)]

Good to know. I was getting confused. I’ll try to keep that in mind for the future.

@Droité-black-dragonflight

OK, I know this is a odd tangent, but anyone else just sort of weirded out by the prospect that the NE civilization relocated the majority of their people into a 15 year old Tree? One created under dubious conditions, and occasionally plagued with corruption issues (or their aftereffects)? We are talking about people who have many members that have lived over 10k years, and hold like a third of a continent at their worst of times. You’re telling me that these people migrated thousands of people away from what would have been their homes for eons, in like not even two decades? Much shorter if we factor in Vanilla.

A hypothetical.

1. WC3 occurs, Hyjal goes boom.
2. Surrounding night elves (save for the druids) leave, but Felwood is corrupted, forcing them to Ashenvale.
3. Warsong and general baddie (i.e. satyrs, demons) aggression make Ashenvale makes it less hospitable to non-military forces.
4. Safest place is, for the most part, Darkshore. Auberdine becomes a larger hub as a result.
5. Teldrassil is grown enough to settle upon. Now night elves from Hyjal/Felwood who would have possibly displaced those in Ashenvale/Darkshore all filter in to this new, safe place to call their own.

Unlikely, yes, but the lands they previously held had been made inhospitable or too dangerous for the average elf.

[Zarrín-zuljin]

@Ethriel-elune

currently we saved all but maybe 5-10%.

Fixed it for you.

[Ethriel-elune]

@Zarrín-zuljin

Fixed it for you.

No?

1000 died in Teldrassil, plus all those that lived in Darkshore and Ashenvale. We saved a total of around 100.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Ethriel-elune

1000 died in Teldrassil

Was that it?
Not that that isn’t significant. Just would have expected more.

[Micâh-moon-guard]

Keep in mind we have no idea how many were actually living in Teldrassil. Especially considering the amount territory the Kaldorei own.

[Ethriel-elune]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Was that it?

Well, from ingame numbers, yeah. That’s also where I took the 100 from that we saved.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

Oh, so those numbers probably aren’t precise?

[Ethriel-elune]

Well, it does give us a rough proportion of how many we saved, which is below 10%.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

I’m not sure how much we can really extrapolate.

If you want to take it the worst way for the Night Elves, that’s your decision.

[Ethriel-elune]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

If you want to take it the worst way for the Night Elves, that’s your decision.

It’s the only canon source we have.

[Zarrín-zuljin]

@Ethriel-elune

it does give us a rough proportion of how many died, which is below 10%.

Fixed it for you.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

You’ve already acknowledged you are choosing to interpret it a certain way. That’s your decision.

[Ethriel-elune]

@Zarrín-zuljin

Fixed it for you.

Why are you editing my sentences into wrong statements?

100 of 1000 is 10%, and then we have all the dead of Ashenvale and Darkshore too.

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

You’ve already acknowledged you are choosing to interpret it a certain way.

I’m not really interpreting anything into it, it’s just how the story went.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Ethriel-elune

I’m not really interpreting anything into it, it’s just how the story went.

You are choosing to view these numbers as rough proportions.

[Ethriel-elune]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

You are choosing to view these numbers as rough proportions.

What else are you supposed to view them as?

It’s in the story that max 10% of Night Elf souls were saved from the maw.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Ethriel-elune

What else are you supposed to view them as?

Not really relevant to the lore numbers. But you are choosing to view them as very relevant.

I think lore wise nearly ten thousand people died at Wrathgate? We don’t see even a rough equivalent of that in game.

[Morghel-daggerspine]

@Ethriel-elune

It’s in the story that max 10% of Night Elf souls were saved from the maw.

No, it is not. We have no clue how many Night elves that were saved from the maw, same as we have no clue how many of them died when Teldrassil went up in smoke. Blizzard has been extremely unwilling to divluge even a rough percentage for either, which I agree is downright infuriating.

What we know, is that based on in game reactions, Teldrassil was bad. Really, really bad. And there hasn’t been a proper resolution to that yet, unfortunately. It might never happen. And this isn’t because Blizzard are malicious. It’s because their game department and writing department is like a hydra with split personality disorder. There is no cohesion, and no cooperation between them. And it has lead to the mess we are in right now.

But I will say this. Blizzard seems to be very aware of how people feel about Teldrassil, and they seem to be aiming for some form of resolution that they believe will be good enough, from what I can tell. Don’t let the Forums get you down, and don’t let baseless speculation be your source of information. Time will tell what will happen next.

[Ethriel-elune]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

I think lore wise nearly ten thousand people died at Wrathgate? We don’t see even a rough equivalent of that in game.

But my point is that we still have percentages about how many night elves we actually saved and how many died.

@Morghel-daggerspine

What we know, is that based on in game reactions, Teldrassil was bad. Really, really bad. And there hasn’t been a proper resolution to that yet, unfortunately. It will never happen

Fixed that, after seeing the 9.1 PTR that is.

@Morghel-daggerspine

Blizzard seems to be very aware of how people feel about Teldrassil

Yea, and the writers are probably plotting about how to make it even worse already. 9.1 PTR and Tyrande losing her final showdown with Sylvanas and then sleeping for the rest of the patch while Sylvanas gets redeemed is extremely disrespectful again.

People and the writers said that we’d get some resolution in Shadowlands, but that was a massive lie and things got even worse in Shadowlands besides freeing a small portion of souls.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Ethriel-elune

But my point is that we still have percentages about how many night elves we actually saved and how many died.

Only if you choose to view the two numbers as representative and related. If you don’t then no, we don’t have that.

[Shernish-nazjatar]

We will sing our eternal song, never hearing someone else’s, so what?
We will sing our eternal song, muffling the voices that are singing out of tune.
We will sing our eternal song until they kill us with a permoban.

Okay, what’s there? There is no news, no new interviews either. The choice of the night elves - revenge or the peaceful way has not been canceled?