The writers probably don’t even know what’s going on anymore in this mess they’ve written.
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Or they retcon that it was ever a genocide, and many of the Night elf citizens escaped, only a few hamlets and burgs were completely lost…
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Every time I reread that it makes me cringe how dumb he is. “there are signs of change within the Horde” Oh Anduin, the Horde has time and again promised change and always reverted back to their old ways. Why is this time any different? Tyrande is right about him.
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is this because of baine?
hum…
Well not surprised, anduin in war crimes believed that garrosh had redeeming qualities. i wish that they had more interactions because garrosh then was curious about him.
aand then he died 
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Not before he crushed Anduin with a bell. His finest hour.
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Is it? Remember, Sylvanas had the support of the majority of the Horde right up to the end. To think she does not still have strong support among the Horde is crazy. In fact, we know she does still have loyalist among the Horde ranks. From Tyrande’s perspective, there is reason to think that Sylvanas could again seize control the Horde, or at least a portion of it. So, until that is put down no treaty could be trusted. And there is no reason to believe the Horde is really focused on taking her out.
My hope is someone trips over that bump.
What I would like to see at this point is after Sylvanas is put down Tyrande agrees to treaty talks. She then puts bad terms for the Horde. Withdraws form and sacrifice of claims on areas and such. Have several Horde leaders balk at the terms. But have someone, like Thrall stand up and say, ‘No, this is how we do better. This is how we pay for our sins.’ Then agree to the terms and do something beyond what was asked.
We really, really need to see the Horde not just saying they are different, but actively showing they are.
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All of this. Every last word.
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Also, it’s exactly what Sylvanas would want. I don’t know if Anduin and the other leaders know that yet though.
Remember back in Wrath, when we didn’t have to hold hands with the other faction we had every right to hate to beat the big bad, and could even face off with them in the final raid?
I miss that.
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We didn’t have a cowardly noob Leader back then.
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Except no. That’s not how it went down in Wrath.
The Argent Tournament was Tirion’s attempt to get us to stop figthing each other and focus on the Lich King. The Airship battle was straight up both sides making the hilarious stupid decision to kill each other, right outside the Citadel against a foe that raises corpses, all for the perceived glory of being the ones to take down the Lich King.
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Yeah all of this.
Tyrande will probably be treated as wrong because the story is crap, but it’s still the kind of characterization I respect out of her so far. It’s the kind of characterization I wish Genn had gotten at the end of MoP instead of just quietly agreeing to a treaty and reparations that never happened.
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Here’s what you seem to be missing out on. Tyrande has pretty much said that she is at war with the Horde ENTIRE until Sylvannas gets what’s coming to her, not just the Banshee Queen, but all of the Horde, every single one of them. Whatever faction they’re apart of. She’s even at war with the cute little fox people.
Sounds like you see what we all see.
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Can the writers kill Anduin and replace with a not gary stu/boy scout character?
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Gary Stu was his Hero Chin Dad.
Or maybe since he was more of a body builder, Varian was Arnold Stu?
They had to kill varian to not give the alliance a satisfying story again, ever.
Varian would’ve tried to exterminate the Horde like the cowardly murderers they are.
No, he would have made peace, because the writers wanted peace and the characters will always conform to the storyline set out by the writers.
These aren’t real people. They don’t make decisions. They just enact the decisions that the story path demand be made.
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Remember Anduin has at least 1 more lie to tell us.
CAN’T TRUST THAT BOY KING.
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Except it’s exactly how it went down? We were still at war at the time. It’s just that each side mostly ignored one another on the way up to the citadel.
We didn’t have Jaina and Thrall make a heart shape with their hands and blast away the Lich King with the power of interspecies love, which is where we’re headed in BfA it seems.