Spicy New Bwonsamdi Info *spoilers*

[Kordana-wyrmrest-accord (Kordana)]

Yeah Blizzard must hate trolls\loa, you are right Elesana.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Kordana-wyrmrest-accord

the neutral dragon

the neutral dragon loved night elves so much that she bound them to her realm.

[Kordana-wyrmrest-accord (Kordana)]

Bwonsamdi saved Trolls from the maw and only trolls and I’m forced to work with him. His bias is unacceptable, remove him from Ardenweald.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Bobbydigital-tichondrius

you guys are gonna give the night elves a run for their money by the time SL is done with

it’s a lame zone anyway, who even likes the fae and all that

if it were up to me we’d burn down that tree too

i mean, same, but horde content got cut for this, and then they dunk on horde characters anyway?
We just had two Alliance-Only expansions in a row, man. Are you not fed up?

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

The only wild god Ysera has any ties to at all is Cenarius, who acted much akin to a foster mother.

Are you kidding me, did you play Hyjal in Cata at all? Ysera personally sends you and tasks you with summoning or reviving or assisting the Night Elf Ancients lmao

@Kordana-wyrmrest-accord

Oh well i guess if the neutral dragon

Dragon ain’t neutral. Ysera didn’t go bless any other magic tree.

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

The Cenarius that spent a lot of time among the Tauren and taught them much about nature magic before he went on to the Kaldorei.

That was retcon’d, actually, which well, here we are, reifying the point. Night Elves were the first Druids, Tauren second.

[Arlifrex-moon-guard (Arlifrex)]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

https://imgur.com/jDCu90z

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@Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord

the neutral dragon loved night elves so much that she bound them to her realm.

The blessings of the aspects were bribes, bluntly speaking. They were intended to make sure even the most corrupt Kaldorei would have reason to protect Nordrassil and the seal on the second Well of Eternity it represented.

[Bobbydigital-tichondrius]

horde content didn’t get cut. what content will not exist?

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

The blessings of the aspects were bribes, bluntly speaking.

Man I wish other races were bribed with *checks notes * immortality and increased magical powers by Titanic-empowered dragons

[Kordana-wyrmrest-accord (Kordana)]

You are playing one of those races.

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@Baalsamael-turalyon

That was retcon’d, actually, which well, here we are, reifying the point. Night Elves were the first Druids, Tauren second.

It didn’t get retconed, they simply never became full out druids. You can learn nature magics and not become a full druid. It is much like the Harvest Witches of the Gilneans were not true full druids.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Bobbydigital-tichondrius

horde content didn’t get cut.

Dude so much content got cut from Legion until now. But as for Shadowlands?
Forsaken don’t have an afterlife tie in. The focus being spent on night elves isn’t being spent on THE undead race? After they lost everything their faction is about? Who do they even have? Four named NPCs that no one can remember besides Belmont (because of Castlevania) and Voss?

Where’s ANY ancestral worship afterlife?

@Kordana-wyrmrest-accord

You are playing one of those races

High/Blood elves aren’t immortal and definitely aren’t dragon pacted.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Kordana-wyrmrest-accord

You are playing one of those races.

Blood Elves don’t have dragon powers beloved, check your lore

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

It didn’t get retconed, they simply never became full out druids

That is a retcon when Tauren in-game lore stated they were the first Druids before Night Elves lol

[Kordana-wyrmrest-accord (Kordana)]

Neither do Night Elves since Warcraft 3

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

That was retcon’d, actually, which well, here we are, reifying the point. Night Elves were the first Druids, Tauren second.

What Kaileath said wasn’t retconned. Cenarius did spend some time among the Tauren (a while? not sure) treaching them about nature magic first.

@Baalsamael-turalyon

That is a retcon when Tauren in-game lore stated they were the first Druids before Night Elves lol

That is a retcon, but what they said wasn’t.

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@Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord

Where’s ANY ancestral worship afterlife?

That is a bit like asking where the afterlife of the Light is that humans think they go to. Instead, even someone like Alexandros Mograine woke up in his own personal zombie hell. It turns out the living have very bad understandings of what occurs on the other side of the veil.

[Kazthan-argent-dawn]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

Bwonsamdi was a Priest of Mueh’zala originally

Thanks I hate it.
Doesn’t fit with Shadows of the Horde.

@Baalsamael-turalyon

My great-grandma is still alive. When she was born, my country had another name. She claims that name, and actively. She says she predates our country as we know it, in fact. But at the same time if you ask her, she also identifies as being from the country as it is today too.

Doesn’t work like that. Because Trolls already were called Trolls as they had priests.
This idea was around in Shadows of the Horde yes. But your example doesn’t work with the data you’ve given us here.
Blizzard seems simply to change their lore on every turn.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

That is a retcon, but what they said wasn’t.

If in-game lore states Tauren were taught first and this is later changed, that is a retcon.

At the very least it’s a lore ambiguity that was resolved in favor of Night Elves.

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

It turns out the living have very bad understandings of what occurs on the other side of the veil.

Having the four zones be

1. Greek Paradise (Elysium) + Abrahamic Angel based
2. Unseelie Fairy + British Isles Folklore Otherwise (including the Drust) based
3. Eastern European Gothic + Victorian Vampires in Catholic Purgatory based
4. Warhammer Tomb Kings (and thereby a Tolkien derivative) based

Is kinda limiting regarding what peoples and cultures are being used to inspire the afterlife, further exacerbating by the fact the Loa are held to the side.

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

Doesn’t work like that. Because Trolls already were called Trolls as they had priests.
Blizzard seems simply to change their lore on every turn.

It does work like that because he could’ve been a priest of a race that is multiple species before troll lmao

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

Doesn’t work like that. Because Trolls already were called Trolls as they had priests.

Not sure we know that. Rather, they might have had priests before the word.

@Baalsamael-turalyon

If in-game lore states Tauren were taught first and this is later changed, that is a retcon.

Yes, but that’s not what Kaileath said. That’s what I was commenting on.

@Baalsamael-turalyon

When has Ysera ONCE interacted with a Troll Loa or Tauren Wild God or Pandaren August Celestial?

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

The Cenarius that spent a lot of time among the Tauren and taught them much about nature magic before he went on to the Kaldorei.

This was not retconned. What you said was retconned, but what they said was not and is still true.

[Kazthan-argent-dawn]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

It does work like that because he could’ve been a priest of a race that is multiple species before troll lmao

Nope. Doesn’t work at all. Trolls were trolls as they had priests. It was in fact one of the reasons for their “downfall”. So not an early thing.

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Not sure we know that. Rather, they might have had priests before the word.

We do know it. First were the Shadowhunters.