Spellcleave groups are amazing

if people got soooo better over the last 15 years then you shouldn’t be afraid of tuning up the difficulty. Surely your experience and better understanding of the game will cope with the increased difficulty so what’s the problem then?

If the players became better over time, the difficulty should be tuned up so we can face a real challenge.

One of the fun aspect of classic was the difficulty of the dungeons.

After a certain time, with better gear, yes, people will be able to mass pull and AOE a dungeon. But right now the game is so easy we can do it in greens.

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Exactly this!

Have you tried letting a 5 pack of elites catch you on a clothie? You go down. Very very fast.

I remember soloing the elite 58-60 giants in Ungoro at 60 on my pally and that being noticed and deemed to be pretty impressive by the people on the server.

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you mean winterspring?

un’goro have no giant. devilsaur are 55… king mosh is 60.

Ignore the detractors! We can make this happen!

It does have giants. They patrol the far south section of the zone.

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I do want to say that the people in support of this are mostly on reddit right now it seems and it may be too early for the WoW forums, but I know we can make this happen!

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Nothing wrong with laying the groundwork.

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there’s elite thunderhead, there’s elite golem, there’s elite AQ guys during the short window of the AQ event… no elite giant.

I meant the Golems. They were very tough to solo as a pally back in the day.

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Can you point out anything in the patch notes to support your claim?

Seems I see people making this statement frequently but when asked exactly what changes make their assumptions possible they just ghost the thread or ignore it.

This is proof your memory is flawed. Because no one has ever cared about what you did on your wow character. Delusions.

The real question is, how many months, or possibly weeks will it take for people to get sick of easy mode Vanilla and demand pre-1.10, the harder versions of vanilla?

That will never happen due to the cult ideology that pre 1.10 wasn’t any harder.

Nothing about 1.1-1.12 is challenging and you’re just lying to yourself if you think it is.

Vanilla is easymode. Period.

If you’re under the delusion that something has to be challenging to be better or fun then you’re better off playing Dark Soul series.

Even on private servers Naxx was cleared within hours of released and we all now know that private servers were over tuned and a lot more accurate than the retail babies gave credit for.

I was in your guild on Northdale, this is not news to you or anyone.

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Private servers are based off what patch?

Because they’re recreating a specific patch.

The goal is not to recreate what you personally find “fun.”

Honestly a collection of Vanilla patches. More than likely very little from the 1.11-1.12.2 patches.

based on 1.12 with incremental ‘patching’ to simulate 1.1-1.12 evolution so there isn’t really a good answer.