Spellcleave groups are amazing

You didn’t mention cleave grinding, but I was arguing difficulty. Easy mobs allow for cleave grinding.

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Even without cleave grinding I would be willing to bet people would still take to the forums and complain about how “WoW isn’t how I remember it”, people are still doing X and Y.

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I mean general complaining isn’t the point of this thread though.

Blizzard should just own up to their mistake and tune mobs correctly to the way people remember them. Going off 1.12 was a mistake.

Therein lies the conundrum. Is the community a hivemind? Do they all remember the mobs the same way?

It sure was a mistake.
The amount of people that won’t let go of the idea of the game being this easy all the way through really is something. It’s like a cult.

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Looks like more and more people are coming out to support this idea.

AOE farming was definitely possible back then but its more so possible now as everyone has more information and people are class stacking or using certain “comps”. You’d see less class stacking back then and you just grabbed whoever was available and went. Played from alpha until bfa and classic is just easier, just more grindy. Still love it though.

Most of the people claiming the game was never any more difficult didn’t play then, and worse, feel they shouldn’t have had to in order to know if it was or not.

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Its not an issue of support - its an issue of how can you quantify this type thing?

What if a handful of players remember always getting jumped by the Alliance Outrunners in Barrens - but another handful of players never even saw the Outrunners even once in their entire stay in the barrens? How can you adjust the game to make it as both of them remember it?

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No. Just stop.
Spellcleave wasn’t a thing back then because you would wipe very quickly if you tried. Wow. Some people actually think it’s based on information and spec, lmao…

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I’m kinda pumped to see how many supporters this idea of Classic being too easy due to not being based off the right patch of vanilla goes. 1.11-1.12.2 were the pre-TBC easy mode patches. People remember 1.10 and prior.

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The same is true now if you let them catch you. The big difference between now and then? Almost every mage is specced frost. Back then there were tons of fire mages or even arcane mages. They cant keep the mobs from getting to you like frost mages can.

Thats why it works today so easily but didn’t back then. Because people are actually playing the specs now that can do it.

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what?

you single target your way through the 3 elite + 5-6 normal mob packs? or you bring 3 priest to shackle them all?

no. you brought one mage to AoE it while.

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Not really. Elite mobs of the same level don’t hit hard enough to be your doom if you let them catch you like pre-1.10 patches.

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“Everything is too easy! Make it harder so I can complain about that too and other non-issues!!! Pleaseeee!!”

Stop.

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This truly is the battle to save Classic between those who played back then and those who didn’t but think their opinion counts regardless.

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Let’s make this this happen pro-challenge peeps! I think this movement needs a name, like Overtuners.

my Spriest was solo’ing same-level elite back in 2004 before maraudon was even out.

Rogues where solo’ing plugger spazzring in BRD for their shanker.

tons of leatherworker were solo’ing devilsaur in un’goro.

worth mentionning that elites difficulty vary wildly… a caster elite for a rogue? easy stuff. a Demon elite for a warrior? you’ll get your behind kicked.

I care, because I did not ask for 1.12, I asked for the best representation of vanilla, not it’s most watered down pre-expansion garbage patch.

Hell, many of us were urging blizzard to give us prenerf Scholo and Stratholme. Few, if any, were asking for 1.12 in good faith.

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I can agree to this!