It does, exploiting is against the rules.
exploiting of other players is against the rules
not exploiting in general
but i will not try to convice you for the 4th day in a row and i cant fix you reading comprehension
so believe in what you want but you should understand that the reality will not change from that so atleast stop blaming premades in stuff they dont do
Are there not other players in pvp?
Actually, yes exploiting in general lol
Of course you won’t convince me of something that’s incorrect. But here you are saying blatantly incorrect things.
i explained you all that things in the other thread a couple days ago
You explained how you felt sure. You have made extremely incorrect claims. I have proved them all wrong.
i explained everything from the technical moments to the attitude of blizzard to the problem and their will to keep it as it is and do nothing about it
but you just kept crying about exploiting and that this is against some rules that you didnt show us because i guesst they dont even exist
but again you are free to believe in what you want
the reality will not change blizzard will not do anything about it premades will continue to exist
and if you dont change your attitude you will keep crying in the pillow at nights
You absolutely did not lol
I haven’t “cried” about anything. I backed up everything I said with facts and proof. You are simply saying random nonsense.
Hence why me and many others are pushing for things to change because we actually care about the game. Also again no crying has come from me. I have simply provided facts and proof. You just don’t like it, so you are now resorting to trying to insinuate that I’m “crying” about things. This age-old tactic simply won’t work on me sorry. Blizzard has a history of not caring about random bg’s and they also have a history of banning and fixing exploiting in pve, so me and many others are asking blizzard to do the same for pvp.
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yeah whatever makes you feel better
good luck with that and be patient maybe in a couple of decades they will adress this problem
Aww it’s ok. I know it’s hard to debate logic and facts.
Well, the problem is at the point where it’s effecting the game so it’s a good time for blizzard to get involved. Plus, the exposer of what you guys are actually doing and lying about help. Hope you have another game lined up.
the problem in the point where its effecting the game since the start of random bgs and blizzard are involved since 2012 so yeah good luck
Ya except not. Raid queue used to be allowed. Then they got rid of it and sync groups where extremely rare and usually only went against others. Now we have your ilk running around dodging each other and only queueing into pugs so you can pretend to be good and ruin the game for everyone else so randoms are losing players and that is making it so there are less pvp players overall. So, either blizzard address it and fixes it, or you guys will be dodging each other in a dead game mode.
time will show
Well at least you are correct about that.
I mean, I was one of the ones that levelled through BGs. I had heirlooms and would see most others with heirlooms and there would be some good fair clean brawls.
There was always however some Jonny unemployed with BiS gear alternating characters in most games.
It became tedious, rather than a fun casual thing to do while levelling. So I focussed solely on levelling through LFG and I know a few others did as well.
When I twinked (before Xp in BGs) I would get hate whispers about it, obviously ruining others experiences. Thats what twinks are made for tbh. You can say its for your fun etc, but it ruins others experiences.
Why do you think twink only BGs withered, rotted and died ? They didn’t want to fight other twinks. They wanted pug stomp, or have just enough of a challenge to be interesting but always come out on top.
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Multiboxing with software was fine all the way to shadowlands before they said “no more”. (I was a telling people blizz will never change their mind and linked old blues as my proof)
I wouldn’t take “it’s been this way for years” for granted.
I would say they know about the issue, but it is low priority.
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Absolutely. It’s one of the 4 player types in Dr. Bartle’s Taxonomy of Players. I’m not trying to make it sound any more noble than that, except maybe to say that it doesn’t “ruin others experiences” but rather gives people a negative experience by design.
That’s a significant difference. Also, you can’t make the killer not exist. Plenty of games tried and failed. Killers will always find a way to grief people.
What WoW did, that no one had ever done before was find a way to channel the motivation of Killer players into content. They did this through the two faction system and it is one of the primary drivers of WoW’s success. They turned every griefer into a roleplayer, giving more allies to the socializers to socialize with, by giving them a tribe and allowing them to only kill members of the opposite tribe. Griefers in a two faction system, are entertainment for their allies, and a call to action for their enemies, driving player interaction that is exponential. The explorer who shows up to put down the griefer gets content he otherwise would not have had and make no mistake, explorers love showing off how much more skill they have than griefers.
It’s a team game. With objectives. BiS items are not an exploit. The twink is geared in a way that is in accordance with deliberate design and trust that his allies are happy for the win. The other team should get some twinks.
I agree and have made that same argument further up the thread. I think twinks enjoy running into and challenging an other twink but not whole groups of twinks. If everyone is BiS geared that’s basically the “gear shouldn’t matter” crowd. It would suck. No one wants that. Twink brackets shouldn’t exist it just takes potential teammates out of the queue.
Tldr: Stop trying to solve problems and just making the game worse.
Your “problem” is you want to stomp on pugs. Your fun is not greater than the fun of the 10 others that have to face your “BiS twink”
Too be honest I haven’t seen you around in a long while in EBGS, hope things are well.
I do have a question, and it’s just for my personal curiosity.
Do you think folks leaving a pop 20+ is good gameplay?
All communities drop ques all day long, it’s a fact of premading.
Some groups don’t pop, so you reque it happens.
But if all groups pop, and some of these communities get 20-30+
I’ve been in groups with 35 and yes even a full 40 man full raid all from the same or usually 2 communities.
Do you believe it’s okay to drop these queues, when an entire premade pops together, just because you may lose the coming match?
But that also helps pugs win. If anything twinks are less of a problem than premades, if the integrity of pugs is somehow sacred.