Honestly something that makes me extremely angry is how they framed our quest for justice as vengeance…
It drives me almost as mad as the fact that all the innocent night elf souls were obliterated…
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Good work.
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If I hated the story concerning night elves as much as the OP does I’d quit the game, but thats just me. I guess expressing endless outrage over your dislike of the story is a better use of your time.
If I hated the OP’s posts so much I’d avoid their topics. I guess expressing endless angst over your dislike of the OP is a better use of your time.
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Well you see I don’t. I in fact try to be reasonable, rational and logical to the OP on all of this but they aren’t so my words don’t really mean anything to them. However it is fair to express my opinion on their take on this subject. What isn’t fair is to ignore the reasonable and rational replies the OP has received and then continue to make posts like this which exaggerate and over dramatize the story.
Yeah well you can take your own advice when something isn’t working and move on. Instead of trying to hammer your point to someone who won’t take it, for good or for bad.
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Irrationality must meet criticism.
Im sure Ethriel feels the same way about Blizzard’s story.
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There is a fine line between criticism and hatred.
There could be many things said by going in details, but long story short, the approach of the devs is universal to on gameplay and story sides (till 8 about 9:50 mark [would be fitting], about “shards of domination = tier sets”):
Although the video is worth watching fully, and you might spot how the same stuff that is a problem for the gameplay, at least for the part of the audience that agrees with this PoV, are almost the same as what is seen with the story. Things do not exist in the vacuum. And this approach, with misleading and outright ignoring others, opinions, communication, is very similar to also how the recently “hot” events likely were possible to begin with.
In another thread I quoted the statement of Danuser about this patch providing “satisfying answers” to the night elves. Which is in line with his statement from BfA that the resolution of the BfA faction conflict story would be satisfying for both sides.
What it does not align with, is with the way the audience sees that stuff.
So, no. I do not think that this is “the end” in a way that they will be forevergone, but, I do think that this is the similar situation to what I’ve heard about the recent Star Wars movies: even though that makes no sense from the continuity perspective, for the story the current narrative team wants, they need the characters to behave a certain way (a single segment):
“…needed me a certain way to make the ending effective…”
gl hf
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The end of the Night Elves.
For you.
I mean in all fairness I don’t think anyone on the writing team knew about the shadowlands until the expansion pitch, so…
Not when you know you’re just sending them to be reborn.
Because her sister doesn’t eat them, she reincarnates them.
If their death is only temporary in her eyes, and them dying now will save the great cycle or whatever, then in her eyes it would be doing good.
Blink
While we know that Mueh’zala was focused on Zandalari souls and wanted Rastakhan’s soul in particular, there’s nothing to suggest that Bwonsamdi discarded all non-Zandalari souls.
That’s like saying because Ji wanted to punch a dinosaur after the Horde arrived to Zandalar, that it means he wanted to punch all of them. Or that the fiercely loyal Dentarg was secretly disloyal to Ner’zhul because his WoD counterpart was a member of the Shadow Council.
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That sounds out of character; especially since the reason Bwonsamdi took over as Loa of Death from Mueh’zala was because Mueh’zala was callous and destroying souls in his care to increase his own power.
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Then read shadow rising and make chapter9.0 ardenwaeld again + the other side
Spoiler: in order to save the only important grp (zandalari) sacrifised bwonsamdi all other under his watch.
Mueh’zella even mocked him about that and wanted the last souls, the zandalarsouls btw. Demanded them.
I’ve read Shadows Rising, where it was revealed that Bwonsamdi was doing everything he could to save all troll souls, to the point of directly rescuing Zekhan from the Maw. And as a Night Fae, I did quest with Bwonsamdi, and the only troll soul he ever mentioned was, one of his favorites per Shadows of the Horde, Vol’jin.
Furthermore this is the description of the dungeon entry for De Other side: Bwonsamdi has kept a secret place in the Shadowlands he refers to as De Other Side. When the dead started funneling into the Maw, Bwonsamdi hid several in his little domain, keeping his troll followers safe. But this broke an old deal with Mueh’zala and now the ancient loa has come to harvest those souls and destroy their caretaker. Bwonsamdi will need help collecting on some of his other dealings if he is to survive this onslaught and protect the souls within.
Note the highlighted statement and nothing in that suggests that Bwonsamdi has discarded the non-Zandalari. And Mueh’zala just demanding the Zandalari could easily be a result of Mueh’zala himself holding that “Zandalari are better than the other trolls” mindset that we’ve seen with other Zandalari like Zul and his lot during Mists and BfA.
Or, and I just thought of this, with Zul’s coup, the civil war in Zandalar, the Battle of Dazar’alor, and the Widow’s Bite and Banshee loyalists uniting against Talanji and Bwonsamdi’s followers… it’s very possible that the majority of the dead souls Bwonsamdi was keeping from the Maw were in fact Zandalari.
Now I want you to actually provide evidence of your claims that Bwonsamdi has discarded the other souls.
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“he demanded the souls of Rastakhan and the other Zandalari who died during the Fourth War, whom Bwonsamdi was keeping away from him.”
(only…the zandalari trolls was keeping away from him)
He gave him power all the time, until the fourth war. But , yeah, i agree, in this book (from broker pov) it seems he saved all the other trolls aswell…
We know for an fact, he think about all souls in the same way, no soul have more meaning as the others…the zandalari are the reamaining souls there.
Way way back, I played a tabletop RPG known as Wraith The Oblivion, part of White Wolf’s storyteller family. It gives you a different perspective from the simplistic binary of good vs. evil, especially when it comes to the afterlife.
Sira was right. Elune abandoned the Night Elves.
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