So the Alliance are just supposed to forget

You’re seeing a sped up version of everything that happens and not even the full story. Just like most of the things that happen in WoW. This all didn’t happen overnight.

You also missed all of the times where she speaks of her insecurities and she was never perfect, nor a personification of anyone.

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Sylvanas. Destroyed. Undercity.

Don’t play stupid, you know that’s what she did. Alliance didn’t blight the city, no one forced Sylvanas to destroy everything. Which is a shame, it would have been nice to actually destroy the city ourselves. (And no wonder why we went after the Troll Kingdom, we couldn’t attack the Undercity because of Sylvanas, so we go after that,

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This!!!

The alliance keep whining about how they dont have a counter part for Theramore while the horde just never had a Theramore.

After Cata, thing was balanced and that mean that everything the alliance lost in Cata, the horde didn’t had it.

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This is one of the most stupid alliance whining thing ever. Both side lost a capital city because of a attack made by the other side.

Sylvanas didn’t blow uo Undercity just for fun. She did it because the horde would have lost it anyway in the hand of the alliance. Her plan wasn’t to destroy Undercity but to win the battle. Thanks to one of the god-tier alliance hero she wasn’t able to beat the alliance so she destroy Undercity trying to kill the alliance leader. Again, thanks to the same god-tier alliance leader she failed to kill them.

The alliance started a attack on a horde city and now that city is destroy. Stop asking to destroy a other horde city while we also get our expansion capital being raid.

It should be horde time to strike back but of course the horde isn’t allow to strike back so a other enemy is going to destroy the alliance army now…

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I still go back to Undercity from time to time, It feels good to see the horde banners still flying on the battlements of Undercity.

Of course the place is death trap now, and it appears Jaina only froze the blight. The burnt blighted landscape runs from the gates of Undercity to the sea in the North. It is quite an impressive scene of destruction.

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Disturbing, really.

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And Throne of Thunder if I’m recalling correctly.

Actually, the city itself fine. The top side is covered in blight. So there still possible to reclaim the city. I think about it that pretty clever. Denies alliance entrance and probably has a means of getting the city back in the future.

i dunno dude, that was a ton of blight that blew up in undercity. cant even get close enough to clean it up (unless your jaina of course)

also you know you are working against the other bloke’s argument that the alliance destroyed undercity.

you are recalling correctly, but it was only in mop did we get the model we see today

Nope, u can actually get in the city. It is completely intact. Beside who made the blight? I bet she has an anti-agent. That whole city trap was good before they made her a walking human blond. So bets are she had a long term plan. Think about it. The alliance goes away. She retakes the city without fighting.

again you are working against fehu’s argument that the alliance destroyed undercity and therefore there was alliance favoritism. so thanks i guess.

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Nope go in there you see.

Should totally convince Jaina to go through with flooding Orgrimmar like she wanted after theramore

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Not for something done by ally!
Their leaders always fall for something done by the own horde or other forces!
Never for something caused exclusively by the alliance!
But our cities always fall for something planned and executed by Horde!

The horde destroyed Teldrassil!
The Alliance did not destroy Undiecity!
The Horde is clearing Darkshore!

No occupation action is being taken on Lordaeron by the Alliance!
The positions of the Forsaken were evacuated before the Alliance arrived at Lordaeron!

Darnassus had no chance of having the villages in Darkshore evacuated as they suffered surprise attacks !!

But it’s alright! it is your opinion that that phirric situation was a victory for ally!

Fortunately, it’s not true, no matter how much someone tries to do what happened in both cities something remotely the same!

It would have been nice not to conquer the city but to have defeated / expelled Sylvanas or the city to have fallen for something really bullied by Alliance forces instead of seeing Syl sacrifice his capital!

But of course, seeing ally giving a really painful blow, would hurt the horde pride, who can not experience a defeat for ally!
Not in game at least!

Please! :roll_eyes:
Garrosh never wanted Theramore! He just wanted to destroy the city, with the largest numbers of alliance troops inside!
He never wanted the city!

And in the end, after SOO, Orgrimmar ends up controlling the horde, but what I see the most is Edgy lords crying because they have had their city citiated while the ally has always been destroyed and never returned to the vitality of as if it had not even been attacked!

Your mourning, is not more fair or true than the one that occurs in ally!
The difference is that in ally, the damage is permanent and in the horde, until the next patch!

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Close. Garrosh wanted the largest military port (and city) the alliance had just outside of core horde territory gone. It was a good decision.

No your cities always fall for something planned and executed by Blizzard’s writers, just like Horde’s leaders. I assure you, i didn’t light the match for the World Tree. Heck if i had my choice i’d have just eaten all the elves and kept the tree. I’d like a town that doesn’t look like a bombed out 3rd world country for once.

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BUT YOU FREAKING DID !!! The alliance did defeated/ expelled Sylvanas out of the city… The alliance make their way trough the throne and only Sylvanas was still there for the horde. She war FORCED to leave because of the alliance.

Geez i would love to come to your house, beat you, tell you to leave the house because i am taking it. Then you would burn the house at your last attempt just so i can not use it. After that you would go complain to the police about what i did and they would give you your crap argument: ‘’ You burned your house not him, he didn’t do anything wrong you are the one that burned the house’’…

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Funny part is they raided orgeimmar already. They’re going back in 8.2. They killed rhastakan, sacked the city, destroyed undercity, and yet they’re always the victims.

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You mean the one where we don’t even capture the city?