So rewatching old wow cutscenes:

The only death in a game that really got to me was with Haurchefant. Otherwise, it was almost always… meh. Especially in WoW after Shadowlands, death doesn’t really matter much anymore.

Edit: Though I must confess that Varian’s departure was quite epic.

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I don’t know who that is. I mean, I Googled him but I’ve never play FF14.

Agreed. I really enjoyed Garrosh’s second “death” too. I never liked him but I can respect him for disliking Thrall until the end and regretting nothing.

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I won’t touch context, but the production quality went both up and down. Someone posted the SoO trailer, and it just blows what we have in DF out of the water with inferior tech and models. The characters are more expressive, the lighting is actually in the cutscene (how come no one in DF has a gd shadow? Lol), and the framing is more deliberate.

They’ve got an intern cranking these out, for real.

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I can only agree with you on that. One of the few things I found acceptable in Shadowlands. A character, who fully stands by his actions. Not like Sylvie, who they suddenly wanted to portray as a poor little victim.

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First wanted to say that Im back and thank you blizzard for unhiding my post, means alot by a fan of warcraft to see someone get it that everything is not horrid intent and fans can love, dislike, and hate something at the same time and trip down memory lane so big up for that and again thank you.

Another all trip down memory before wow days and warcraft 3 days you had dalaran getting destroyed by archimonde: The armies of the world rose up and knew what we had to do: we also knew WE MIGHT fail we couldn’t fail, but we might, it was grim, it was dark and we knew if we didn’t stop it here - that was it for our world.

Again not like current when everyone seems SO SURE we are going to win, it underminds the Villian, the threat never felt real its just: well he LOLED into the dream so you know, annoying right? go stop that we need to get our nails ready so we can become new Aspects: maybe next time hero, next time.

ALSO! while dalaran was a major city it is not a “major” city you could say, it was the mages home for sure, but they dealt with restoring it ON THERE OWN they didn’t need 3 expansions of sadness and despair, they did it. And while yes the night else tree is slightly different, the restoring of there home/tree could have just been tied to the alliance or rather night elf’s alone if it needed to be ingame.

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I also thought it was excessive to flag your thread just because you liked the earlier expansions better than the new ones. Some people in their pink bubbles really need to realize that it’s better when players speak up about what they don’t like. Because that expresses that they still feel connected to the game. If, on the other hand, they just leave without saying a word, then in most cases, you’ve lost them for good.

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Meh. She’s in her visage form just as much as the rest of the gang. Heck, Kalecgos loves his new visage model so much he made multiple mirror images of it!

“On your left!”
“You are not alone!”

Thanks, Kal! I got it! But if you want to be useful, I have a couple suggestions!

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Why does Alextrazsa keep mingling with the mortals? The way the dragon aspects are characterized in Dragonflight is ridiculous. They should not be easily accessible to everyone. They should not be taking an active role in the main storyline. They are immortal ancient beings that should look dangerous and a little scary and should always be a little beyond our reach.

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True, I rememeber when I started wow these beings known as ‘aspects’ where just like story line rumors of beings of amazing power, pride, heck even ego: they where aloof: not something or someone you could just go talk to like - so my 35 silver is my hand when?

now they are just normal beings that lack any mystery to them just there, yeah i get they lost there powers but they still should be a bit cagey

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Don’t even get me started… That reminds me of how messed up the story around Elune became. Originally she was shrouded in mystery… only to turn into a joke in Shadowlands. sigh

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People are forgetting that WOTLK was absolutely hated on constantly when it was the current expansion.

People hated WOTLK other than the raids. It was just running around Northrend having Arthas constantly be a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain, “It was all my plan, Ill get you next time, Gadget!”

This is true: Arthas (in wow) was pretty much the worst ever, outside of a FEW highlights but Arthas DOES get a pass only because he was so tragic/good in Warcraft 3 - If you compare Arthas to Villains today he STILL is better - by far but also far from perfect because he had alot of “HAHHAA i’ll get you next time scooby doo!” moments.

Fair is fair to call it out when its true lol.

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That’s an interesting notion.

However, despite Shadowlands no longer being the “current” expansion, I can still very strongly state that it is my most disliked expansion, and I’d go so far to say “hated”. It is the only expansion where I felt the need to quit for a long stretch of time during “peak” content, and even BFA did not do that.

DF, meanwhile, is family-friendly goofiness with the edges sanded off while simultaneously having dragon corpses hanging from spiked chains by the djaradin-- who, in addition, also look hilariously dumb. I will never take them seriously no matter how much they go “Oh yeah these guys hunted dragons forever ago and are actually super badass dragon-killers”. It just makes dragons look more ineffective than usual, which is a feat.

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Im still of the opinion that Djaridin were some other unfinished Concept model that they just called it a day on. They just look so…empty and uninspired. Like an incomplete shell

Dragonmaw clan handled dragons better then these “dragon hunters”

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God dammint i cannot not laugh when i see the word “youngling”. I aways remember that scene from episode 3.

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I… didn’t look at it this way before… given Blizzards tendency to overcorrect their perceived issues, this makes a lot of sense…

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I do find it odd that blizzard wants to just over write everything, like bad things happened: but no see it wasn’t that bad or it really wasn’t that persons fault: See there was a robot in space between life and death playing 4D chess with ALL the strongest beings: See Sargeras wasn’t that bad! (90% sure his redemption is inc: who else can pull the sword “out”) He was just tricked!

Why can’t Sargeras just be a cosmic being that lost his MIND and did horrid, bad things, why does there need to be strings pulled behind it - Yes the dread lords had involvement but Sargeras in the end made the choice to go bat **** crazy when he saw a void being/old god whatever it was corrupt a whole planet: his “choice” was clear - Kill everything so this evil/darkness could not spread.

But watch like said he will come back as a good guy with his best buddy Illidan and will be mocked and berated and end up like: oh he was never that strong or a threat, Psh Sargeras low tier joke.

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Someone in another thread linked this cinematic that hit all of the notes for me.

  1. Engaging build up with an impressive fight scene.
  2. A glimpse of the new boss fights that look pretty fun.
  3. RP walking with explosions going off in the background. I know that it’s cheesy, but I think it works.

Power fantasy done well, in my opinion. I’ve watched the compilation videos for both the SL and DF expansions, but neither resonated with me in the same way. I also enjoy the bulk of the BFA cinematics.

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Homie if you don’t like how wow CURRENTLY IS take your own advice :rofl:

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