So no more shaman changes?

Ok.

So you are saying that shaman are just screwed and we shouldn’t say anything?

We’ve been saying things since the beginning of the development cycle.

We didnt even get heroic talents until beta launched.

We still dont have them functional.

What is your suggestion for feedback then? Esp since they are still communicating with others.

Is your suggestion to just give up?

Is your implication that we shouldnt expect our hero talents to even work?

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I see we’ve finally come full circle.

First it was: “It’s just Alpha, they’re not done yet”
Then it was: “It’s just Beta, they’re not done yet”
And now it’s: “It’s too late to ask for changes the game’s about to release”

Every freaking time.

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I’ve been saying for two expansions now that all Blood Elves should have black tights because they go with any top but for some reason Blizzard is not doing anything about it. I think one reason is that I am just one voice out of several million and I don’t hold a high position in the company.

But I’m not going to quit just because I can’t have my way. Others may feel differently.

As to why they are not following your demands, I’m not sure.

I appreciate how you are equating an entire class being nearly unplayable with blood elf mogging.

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So…… I was not joking then ?

Things not working properly, hero talent sucks and the current pass of changes had zero for shaman. Is frustrating atm.

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You missed the main point of what I was saying. There are millions of people who play this game. You and I are two of them. Just because you want what you want and I want what I want that doesn’t mean that the millions of other players agree.

Blizzard has to figure out what features are in the most demand by the majority of players. Obviously their data is telling them Shamans are are not a driving force in the player base. Neither are people who want black tights even if they do go with lots of different tops.

This thought process is so mind numbingly painful, I am just gonna walk away.

For you to earnestly believe that shows that this conversation is not worth continuing.

I would say have a good day, but you are here saying my entire expansion experience should be horrible. So I wont.

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No that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that you and I are two people out of millions who play the game. Why should we think that once we have spoken, the developers will obey? What about the other several million and what they want?

Look, the game is either what you want or it’s not what you want. If it aligns with what you are willing to play, then play. If there is a better game out there that is more of what you want, go play that. It’s all about free choice.

I never said the developers should obey me at any point in time.

You said I should just suck it up, and deal with it. You said I shouldnt ask for changes. You said I should be ok with shaman being nearly unplayable.

So once again.

I wont reply going further because this thought process you are having is really horrible. its based on making up my view point. Its based on saying others should have a horrible time. And not ask for changes.

So, carry on. I hope you your preference in class and race are redesigned to be trash. Because I will absolutely call you out for suggesting any changes.

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No one ever said you can’t express your point of view. In fact you expressed it. As to what Blizzard does about your point of view, they will consider it along with all the other points of view then decide on a direction to take.

So what are you missing?

Its like when Demonology in WoD was gutted on purpose so people would stop playing it before the rework. This is a REAL thing the devs said.

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Are those blue class players still whining?

“How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?”

Bus Shock still in effect.

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Use MoP remix to level a new main for a while. Just like ff14 is doing a healer boycott we can do a shaman boycott

Someone help me, I’m dying out here!

I don’t remember the reason given but they didn’t want people to play demonology over the other specs.

You’re out of your mind if you think is two of us that think shamans have been abandoned for years….

We have to use a macro to cancel our hero talent because is weaker than lightning bolt….

Please think twice and then some before you say things like that.

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I never said that. We have no idea what the majority of players think. We hear a lot of shaman players complaining here in the forums. But the questions are, of the millions of players:

  1. How many players main their Shaman or have it as a top tier alt? and
  2. How many of those players care about class details?

Blizzard should have information about that which they gather from statistic collecting software in the system. If their information says shaman is not a popular class or people with shamans don’t do M+ or Raids where details are important then they will work on other things.

When it comes to a shaman rework, it’s a matter of when. Not if. And that’s about all I got. Y’all are just gonna have to wait. I do like playing my ele sham though so I feel yall

Incredible how you think classes should be worked on based on popularity. If a class isn’t popular is because is boring and not well designed…. Who designed the class? This became a Moo point a while ago. We shouldn’t be punished for blizzard’s mistakes. Is not like we designed the class and nobody likes it, this is their mistake, just like ele shaman having to use macros to cancel the new hero talent because LB is better.

You are delirious.

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