So like... I'm not thrilled dual spec is in Era

My money’s on the other theory being floated around that TBC and Wrath will be cyclical, but with no actual permanence.

Why?

Because this company is hung up on arena with trying to pass it off as a legit E-Sport, assuming arena hasn’t been allowed in E-Sports but I haven’t kept up on that.

They don’t want us getting complacent with our Brutal gear or we may not bother regrinding the seasons over and over…

I know that’s exactly the case for me. This will be the last time I grind out arena gear.

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I mentioned it already why Duel Spec is bad for Era. It harms classes that are brought with hybrid specs. Now there is no reason to bring them, you can min/max with duel spec. It fundamentally changes a core part of Classic WoW and will effect raid composition. The pets and collection stuff - few really care about that since it doesn’t effect the game play at all, unlike DS.

If they want to do that no problem, they do it with Diablo 3 all the time. However, have Era servers for players to go back to… like Diablo 3 does.

lulz

If dual spec has ZERO downside then the same would be true of Tri spec, Quad spec… Giga-spec etc…

but we know thats not true so that brings us back to the question: How much does Dual spec diminish the Classic experience? The answer is definitely SOME

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Only if you value, or are intended to value, adversity in spec choice as driver for exploration. Specsploration?

We know the majority of the player base doesn’t value this. It’s evident that by adding dual spec to Era, Blizzard doesn’t either.

Which is just too bad. It was a fun system to engage with if you understood that you didn’t have to be the best all the time, and that the alternatives ended up being very much “good enough”.

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To take a cheap shot at particular posters regarding GDKP threads?

If you cant beat em, join em?

Sir, that sounds an awful lot like you worrying about it! I’ll leave you to it, then :slight_smile:

there’s a saying in the creative world “Limitations breed creativity” which seems to be true across many fields.

look at big budget films or games with unlimited resources that are devoid of maximizing creativity for their solutions when compared to a low budget game or movie that is forced to maximize it’s creativity due to its limitations.

if people have access to everything at once they have access to nothing at all. Classic wow really exemplified this with the limitations it had in place across many aspects of the game.

The class design where no one class can do everything so must group with other players of different classes to fill the gaps is an example of these limitations actually improving the experience. Something that was lost in later iterations of the game as every class gained access to everything

Dual spec is a step towards this same lack of limitations which is a detriment to the creative aspect of the games design.

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Some? Its gone, lol. Era is officially dead and buried.

You could look at every other major change in isolation and even justify one or more of them but when you add them along with these new changes (especially when you account for the reasons for the changes) Era can no longer offer a classic experience. Its a Wrath experience now - you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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It is worrisome. Imagine pretending to be better than someone else and then starting a thread to make fun of them at their expense.

Just troll them head on, its worse when you try to be cute about it.

Oh 100%. There’s this little fantasy console that I absolutely love, called PICO-8, that’s founded on exactly that premise. You have limited processing power, limited graphics capabilities, limited code size even, but the stuff people make with it is incredible. If you’re a programmer dork, it’s worth checking out :slight_smile:

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I bet none of those who are whining about two specs are maining a healer. I played holy priest in classic vanilla and resto shaman in classic TBC on Grobbulus. Try walking in my shoes.

Do your damage buttons not work as a heal spec priest or shaman? My resto druid seems to be able to use wrath, starfall, moonfire, and insect swarm just fine.

:person_shrugging:

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I leveled my Paladin as holy. I main it as holy, and holy has been my preferred spec since I started playing.

Dual spec being added to era is an undeniable power increase to my main character.

I still did want it added to era.

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My obligatory post to say I enjoy having dual spec.

Currently rocking a fc spec and a 30/0/21 balance spec on the druid. I’m much more likely to play wsg and help run flags now. I wouldn’t really queue for it ever if it meant paying 50g to leave feral or balance spec.

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HELL YEAH BROTHER
:expressionless_face:

It’s a curse.

Rsham during the first classic playthrough reporting in.
Fire, wind, lightning etc all go burrr.
But I had multiple totem chuckers too.

don’t you dislike how every paladin is basically gonna be the same now :expressionless: i.e. ret + holy d00l spock

If youre gonna play the holier than thou card to take a shot at someone don’t pull any punches.

Use it if its useful. This isnt one of those times.

The new class identity is to no longer have an identity. At least we resolved the whole “problem” with meme specs.

How is this an issue? Really digging deep for this complaint.

DUAL SPEC IS GONNA RUIN MY ERA EXPERIENCE

no it won’t lol

YES IT WILL YES IT WILL IM GONNA QUIT FOREVER

no you won’t lol

HA HA HA I AM TROLLING U SO HARD

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