Citation needed! “source”?
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Basically,if they wanted to jump into a raid or mythic they can at their pace not on anyone else’s. no more jumping into the lava pit without being the one doing less for a group and able to stand the damage taken.
Why do I need these expensive running shoes - made from the wings of Hermes - when I spend most of my time sitting down in front of a computer? At any moment a bear could crash through my window and attack. We must be prepared at all times.
Oh yes,what did you do to the bear on the computer? intriguing minds would like to know.
The probability is low, but not zero!
I bought a 230 helm for 4200 gold. The other 200 pc’s were 1k each. This only after 45 days playing and only play half hour to a hour at a time.
I do not think I need any higher gear, till I can not proceed farther.
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The problem is with Blizzard design. People want to feel like they are progressing character and the way that happens mostly in WoW is gear. The more you progress the better gear you get. For casual players there is really no type of set character progression just whatever goals you set for yourself.
Ideally I would like to see ilvls just standard, you could get 252 ilvl from multiple sources. The difference is that set bonuses would become more important. Depending on where the gear came from there would be set bonuses that apply to that content. Those set bonus for content like raiding or mythic+ would be part of what sets the gear apart from the casual gear. The other part would be gear models, not just different colors and/or extra doodads but different models.
With something like this players would feel like they are progressing their characters no matter what content they like. It would also still give people that do higher end content gear that reflects the effort they put into doing that content. Instead of there being a general best gear in the game, it would be the best gear for the content you are doing.
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Trouble with doing that is it makes doing the open world content closer to mandatory for raiders who want to just do raids and maybe m+. This might be less of a problem if the world content itself was actually interesting or challenging but they have to make world content easy enough that the worst player can still do it. This makes it pretty mind-numbing mid-high level players.
No, it’s an old, old question. I remember guildies discussing what they were going after, and one mentioned some piece. The other: “Why? That’s what a raider needs, and you don’t raid.”
I can give you some ideas – envy, keeping up with the Jones, “I could raid if I wanted to, see?”, wanting the best-looking gear – but no answers.
On second thought, maybe there is something to wanting the best-looking gear. 
I have one, sometimes two, characters with the best gear I can get for the content I choose to do. The rest have to struggle. At this point, that’s part of the fun.
Kinda weird how the argument against alternative progession methods are both “just do the content you don’t want for the rewards” and “don’t force us into doing content we don’t want!”
Yet “casuals” are the entitled ones 
Edit: Actually I’m wrong with this, it’s “Just do the content you don’t want to do for the rewards, otherwise tough luck!” vs. “don’t make us FEEL like we’re forced into doing content we don’t want despite how it literally wouldn’t change anything on our end, it’d just FEEL like it!”
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No, they could still just do raids and mythic+. The gear from open world would not give any real benefit to people in that content because it would not be set pieces. You would really want to have set bonuses over ilvl. Now if people want the easy ilvl over a set bonus that would be on them but they would be hurting themselves in the process.
Do you understand what chores people at different levels of raiding are expected to do in order to raid? If you want to be in a low level mythic guild you are spending 6 hours a week raiding. This farming to buy 3 armor kits, maybe 4. You also need to bring probably 30 pots. maybe less. You also need weapons oils/sharpening stones and health pots. Hopefully your guild provides feasts and cauldrons, because flasks and foot aren’t cheap. You also are probably expected to get 4 m+ dungeons done for vault. That’ll take 3 hours if you’re lucky, probably more. At best you have 12 hours of content you have to do every week to be a mid level raider, let alone high. Right now high level raiders also have to grind world content for gems and conduit upgrades. That is why some people are mid level raiding instead of pushing CE. If you make world content upgrades to good then mid level guilds will expect them aswell. People don’t want their game play ceiling to be held back because they can’t play 20 hours every week to get all of their chores done, just so that they can do some raiding.
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Unless you are planning on changing on how tier sets work, they won’t be a reason to have 0 high level world gear. Most of the gear you wear isn’t tier. You start having legitimately good gear drop available in world content raiders will end up having some piece that they think they need. We had that happen with the Kyrian bell earlier this expansion, it was kind of terrible.
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I’m not mocking anything. I’m being serious. Casuals need better gear in order to solo old raid bosses which proves to be harder than it has been in the past.
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So you want to be paid the courtesy you refuse to give to others? Still coming across as very “What I do is more important than what you do, so don’t make me FEEL like it isn’t!”
My apologies if this is the case, your follow up comment about G’huun just came across as a bit of an insincere expectation, but I will admit that text leaves room for misinterpretation.
Not more important, objectively more difficult. You do not need any gear outside of what is provided in the open world to do open world content. You can’t walk up to M Sylvanus in only raid gear across your whole raid. You only are required to do the content you want to do complete the content you want to. Raiders don’t have that luxury, don’t make it worse.
Incorrect. If I changed the word “best” to "better, it’s entirely true.
You’re just mad because I don’t think you should get the same gear as someone who puts in the work. You want the gear, do the content that rewards the gear. It’s pretty simple and oh so straight forward.
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Stronger than what though? There comes a point when you don’t notice the increase in power because things are already dying too fast. 233 Korthia gear is plenty to go around in the open world and gather up as many mobs as you want and kill them all with no fear of dying.
You won’t notice a difference from 233-242 for example. That’s open world / casual gear compared to Heroic Raid gear.
Are you stronger? Sure. Can you tell? Mmm…maybe on a few specs, but overall, nah.
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True. But there’s also a point where “new and better” runs out too. Different difficulties have different levels of point break for that though. And I think that’s a good thing.
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