Runed runed skipper is correct for pretty much all group content and all specs. If you ever run triple runed then you’re just using a stat stick and can literally math out if its more stats than one of your other rings.
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Ultimately any upgrade to a single item, even if that upgrade is a very large one in relative terms, is going to be close to imperceptible in reality. We get stronger over time as lots of little things add up, but any one on their own you can’t really notice.
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It should be better than other rings overall. It is RNG so one run it may be meh and another it can be great.
We are only talking a 2% increase. It might not be so noticeable.
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i wish there wasnt any of that (if others in party are wearing it) bs.
that’s just opening the doors to other ppl telling you what you should be equipping.
“oh look, x isnt wearing the thing! KICK EM/BERATE EM!”
Triple Runed is best for Enhanced Shammy. I guess they really like mastery. I haven’t checked all classes and specs but I assume there are others.
It can trigger your own gems, so I don’t think it is that reliant on others using it.
Worth noting this recommendation is just wordup expressing cautioun due to to potential issues with skippers being very high variance.
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This is really it, it’s almost imperceptible at the vault cap keys, and I’ve only got 626 rings to compare it to. The sims can say whatever they want, but it doesn’t necessarily feel good to equip. I don’t feel stronger with it on, even if I equip what raidbots says.
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Thing is, if we were to hypothetically take the dps increase the ring gives and put it on a regular as stat stick ring. You would’t be able to feel that either.
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No one is doing this man, just stop.
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Which is a concern for me with the skipper too. Triggers 100 defensive gems in a row…darn you RNG!
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The ring is looking like Freddy Mercury’s ring
The reason it’s important to have as many skippers as possible is when skippers procs roaring queen it buffs 4 other people. So you have roaring queen buffs going off without anyone having to have taken the hit to actually wear it. Resulting in each roaring proc buff being roughly 20k secondaries split between 4 people (More with more ilvl).
Technically you could just wear 3x runed and leech of the rest of the group’s roaring queen procs, but then everyone else is getting less of them.
Hmm, my Stormbringer had a 34% buff uptime in the SoB 10 I ran. I am guessing that is from the Roaring Queens proc. That is an extra 2600 stats for 34% of the time. That is pretty good.
Fathom dweller had a 13.3% uptime.
A mix of other people’s roaring queens proccing your stormbringer, and your own tideskipper just proccing stormbringer on its own. Remember proc stormbringer is 50% stronger than the passive gem you’re using, so, 4000 stats (1000 of each).
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Ok so…
34% uptime on 4014 stats. 1365 average
13.3% uptime on 2684 mastery. 357 average
How much damage from the combined 3 damage proc citrines?
I deleted it so it’s not exact but it was about 2%
2% combined or each?
It was combined.
Ok so doing some VERY rough math.
We were 1000 average stats short of the stats ring. On an average dps of 1.5mil with an average stat value of 20 that’s 20k. (Stat value probably should be a bit less but yay round numbers)
2% combined value on 1.5mil is 30k dps.
So we’re ahead. A smidge. And looking at my sims that smidge is exactly the difference between the two gems.
EDIT: OH! Don’t forget your windsinger’s runed citrine uptime too cuz that can also proc from skippers. So that’s another 13% uptime of 4000. so 530~ stats.
So now we’re at
1365 + 357 + 530 skippers stat value.
Need to make up 400 to match runed windsinger.
2% damage from gems = roughly 1300 stats.
So yes, well into upgrade territory.
AND I suspect that wasn’t all 5 people using skippers, probably more like 4.