No, because we all have the same access to the same classes and factions. It wouldn’t be fair to the dozen or so people who rerolled Alliance for TBC in anticipation of such queue times.
This more or less hits the nail on the head in my opinion. The Horde population is only ~118% the size of the Alliance across all servers, but the Horde are waiting in ques that are several times longer.
I don’t think there is a conspiracy where Alliance don’t que in order to spite the Horde’s honor gains. There is a lack of interest among Alliance to que BGs because we have proportionally more PvE, and/or casual PvP players that don’t care about grinding honor or playing PvP competitively. That should not be confused with a lack of will power to PvP.
I’ve said this before, but PvP players and players at large should earnestly ask themselves why it is that more PvP interested players are rolling Horde than Alliance. And, to encourage Blizzard to do something about it.
The game will be better if both sides are active and competitive. That is in terms of Que times, PvP scenes/pools of players on each side, and PvP server faction balance (which affects server economies and everything up to being inside an instance on a PvP Server.)
Like I’m not interested in the Horde having que times, but HvH only fixes BG que times and leaves all the other problems that come with one side having most of the PvP interested players in place.
I wish Blizzard would try something bold to even out the distribution. We could have a much better game if they did.
*Population statistics are pulled form ironforge.pro’s latest report that came out for the week of 8/4-8/11.
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no, i hate to break it to you, but it’s less than 10% on the americas servers…
see above post. comprehension’s hard.
better yet, i’ll just go and repost:
Americas:
ally - 86,529 = 46.92%
horde- 97,887 = 53.08%
total- 184,416
(data used from: https://dotesports.com/wow/news/wow-classic-server-populations)
Pifferz was pretty spot on. You shouldn’t use the entire population data when looking at an issue that only effects the PVP community. Look at the PVP community where PVP servers are split more than 60/40. Majority of the PVP community plays Horde and are upset when the people uninterested in PVP don’t play against them.
It’s like all the athletic kids stacked a team for dodge ball and instead of dividing themselves evenly they are mad at the band kids for not playing against them.
OP’s not so good at math, is he? You can’t make the average wait the same for both sides, make alliance wait longer and then all the horde they’re supposed to match up with with have to wait their normal time + that
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well, the overall population is in play because bgs use players from all server types, not just those that queue from pvp servers.
pvp servers doesn’t mean they queue for pvp only, it just means you have to worry about being attacked while in the open world. this is why you see so many carebear alliance on pve servers; it has nothing to do with queuing into bgs or not.
poor analogy- this only fits if everyone on horde got together before tbc and said, “let’s all go horde so we can really stick it to the idiots that still end up going alliance!”
Are you denying that the majority of the people interested in PVP play Horde?
There’s a Horde guild on my server that’s slowing growing in size over time. We fought 8 people at the Terokkar spirit towers yesterday. If you check logs my server has 0 Horde. Most people that PVP play Horde. Most people that only PVP and don’t raid who will not show up on logs play Horde. It’s not that hard to put the pieces together.
My anology is fine. Stop telling PVE players to fix PVP problems.
yea don’t bother me
You spelt “the truth” wrong.
All that matters are the players that play PVP, and which faction they chose. It is glaringly obviously that way too many went horde in North America, hence the queues. PVE players have nothing to do with this. Overall server populations dont matter, nor do the server types.
PVP operates in its own bubble. The only relevant data is the number of active PVPers on either faction for each of the major ‘battlegroups’ for lack of a better word.
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- Similarly, win-rates for the two factions when facing the other faction in Battlegrounds were close to 50/50.
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That was as of the first test, if I recall correctly.
I would be interested in knowing whether that’s changed.
Why would it have changed?
I don’t know.
I can only tell you that it felt like it did and I’ve heard the same from others. I know that’s anecdotal, so I reserve judgment.
I would not be absolutely shocked if results were skewed by people who would ordinarily not PvP queing up on horde just to check out HvH, or people on Alliance to check out the loot box. People who might not have qued for the subsequent test after their curiosity was sated.
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That was during the test. I thought you meant actuall win rates prior to the test.
If HvH is happening then Horde players would share the Alliance players losses. An awesome horde team that would have normally stomped an alliance team is now facing another Horde team and beating them instead.
you can’t use logic with these people.
I’m only interested in the data. And the data says that it’s 50% winrate across factions.
Then why are you interested to see if it’s changed? You admit that there’s no reason for it to have changed, so there’s not much more to say.
Winrates are equal across factions.
Well that’s all we have is feelings here. There is no data for the subsequent tests. I’m not drawing any conclusions by the way.
You also ignore this part that gives a plausible rationale.
I would not be absolutely shocked if results were skewed by people who would ordinarily not PvP queing up on horde just to check out HvH, or people on Alliance to check out the loot box. People who might not have qued for the subsequent test after their curiosity was sated.
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