Liking or dislikeing the design and what rdf does to the game is 100% opinion based on game design preference.
Neither liking nor disliking rdf is “the right answer”. Yet you try to insist on a factual argument. Yet when the fact of the lack of rdf causing an environment that directly encourages (but does not force) players to make social connections you outright dismiss or ignore it. You ignore factual arguments and ignore opinion based arguments.
Once again all you have to do is explain in an objective way why RDF is bad.
Yet you refuse/are unable to. So it just comes down to you being whiny that others would use an entirely optional feature you don’t have to use.
You do know you can get a premade (ie manual group) and use RDF for its bonuses right?
Nothing changes. Except much easier dungeon access for a lot of people
What changes is he wouldn’t be able to pretend the people he pugs with are suddenly his BFF’s.
But yes in reality nothing changes.
Another strawman i see.
The people i pug with are a chance to make social connections does not translate to them “suddenly being my BFF”
I have never claimed that, but the only thing you can attack is the strawmans you make.
So still basically forced to use it, got it!
It changes plenty of things that have been explained over the months of this topic being in place.
Not a strawman, just mocking your “RDF kills socialization” BS because you refuse to provide a real reason RDF is bad.
Then you’re not fine with it, despite you saying you’d be.
For six months none of the anti-rdf trolls have given a reason. That’s…kinda how trolling works. Talk in circles. Lots of strawman and hyperbole and total nonsense. Ignore the reality of what’s going on in the game. Flat out make up lies that we all know are lies. But…people keep biting.
At this point almost all the other trolls have moved on. There’s pretty much two people and their alts. You summoned one not too long ago.
We have, you just refused to accept it or in many cases even acknowledge it.
Tell me, does a lack of a system cause players to find a solution.
Yes or no?
Yeah, the solution is not bothering and questing to 80.
Which is what we’re seeing.
Maybe thats the solution you choose.
But the lack of summoning stones caused a warlock taxi service in classic.
Want to know my solution for no rdf that has worked for me throughout all oc classic to wotlkc? I made social connections. And have been leveking alts with those people. Planning when we level through discord, exc.
You have chosen the anti social solution. I chose a social solution. We are not the same.
No it’s the only solution available if there are not enough people to form a group for a dungeon. Well that or just not play at all.
It’s not rocket science that RDF provides access to a larger pool of players and hence more groups can form.
Try talking to people.
Plenty of 80s have alts.
You can also get into or make a leveling guild, use your server discord to find people who want to level with you, do a dungeon on their alt, exc. You can use a server discord to post “doing a mara leveling group at tuesday 5pm server time, looking for more, @me with character/role to sign up.” It may suprise you how many replies you get from preplanning by a day, even just a few hours., heck even 30 min before you get onto wow.
You not even trying to use a social solution is your choice. But that doesnt mean the game needs to change to support your anti social behavior.
they dont listen to arguments which have been proven wrong. They say anti rdf people dont listen but if anything this forum has proven its the opposite lol whats funny is I dont care either way as it would only help me and i would easily abuse dungeon finder if added. But they want to simply put me as anti just so they can pass off arguments because they dont like facts lol. I would also like to bring up I rekt Garkmuck so bad that not only did he straight admit even if im right he wont change his mind and stopped posting lol.
So saying “no You’re wrong because i dont agree with you” is proving an argument wrong now? Got it.
You’re wrong.
Did i prove you wrong correctly? Because thats how the pro rdf people have “proven” the anti rdf people wrong. Its just funny they cant see the truth in frint of their face lol.
Edit: they cant even admit when we have a valid point and just say they think the pros outway the cons. At least that would be an honest reply.
I disagree and since I know more so i win the argument. My opinion and personal experience means more than yours. We can see the very small % of players who not only know that wow has forums but know to go to open and comment on forums prove that more people want this. Note I have stats from unreliable sources which are crazy bias due to people searching for the answer.
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Aw right, the edjemoocation argument always shows who is right. Lol
Because you don’t actually have any valid points.
Any points you bring up are demonstrably false and ultimately lead back to you just not liking an optional feature.
Where as the pros for RDF are demonstrably true. Like people who can’t get groups now would be able to get dungeon groups.
Just because you dont think the social aspects of the game have any value doesnt mean they dont. Which makes me ask, why are you playing an mmorpg if you place 0 value on the social aspects of the game?