So can we finally admit that not having RDF killed Wrath Classic?

Not our problem.

If the majority of dungeon runners would rather use the automatic queue system, and it forces you to use it also…

Why should I feel any sympathy for you, when as we speak, I’m FORCED to have to manually join groups if I want to run dungeons?

How is forcing me to manually join groups optional?

You have a real deluded mind.

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It wasn’t. For leveilng it was a godsend that let players actually experience the content. At max it was end-game content for casuals. People who didn’t want to raid actually had something to do.

That’s what the anti-rdf posters (shockingly min/max elitist gatekeeping tryhards) will never understand. Also what Blizz doesn’t understand. You think someone like Ion has the slightest concept that to some people simply running heroic dungeons is all they want out of the game? It’s not a means to an end…it’s just the end for them. And that was taken out of Retail long ago. And now it’s been taken out of Wrath Classic as well.

Does Blizz think these Mythic dungeons appeal to such players? Of course not. It appeals to no one. Casuals who want to stomp dungeons aren’t going to do them, or put up with the INSANE gatekeeping that will exist without RDF. Hardcore players decked out in raid gear have no purpose. It has no audience.

These clowns running classic have no clue.

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You can queue in lfg and wait for an invite. You can treat lfg just like rdf if you really wanted to.

And i am not forcing you. The game is designed with no rdf.

Yep they clearly have no clue what made wrath such a good expansion in the first place. It was an inclusive expansion and there was something for pretty much everyone at all levels of play. RDF certainly played a part in that by making dungeons more accessible.

Trying to make Wrath a raid or die expansion like retail is is the opposite of what it was about originally.

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I know you’re trying to make RDF sound bad by saying what you said, but man that is much more appealing than what the current system offers. I’d love to farm badges to get heirlooms and gear pieces for alts, which is getting harder to do with the current system as more people raid-log or go on a break for the holidays.

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this assumes a lock.

or 2 people to start the meeting stone game. sometimes that gets fun.

anyone near the stone?
nope.

who is going?

not it
not it
not it
not it
I can. 15 minutes though.

cool 15 minute person. we got time, start your journey. its gonna take 15 to get one of the 3 not its to get their head out of their butt most likely

one of the 3 nots its goes what about you. You are the 4th not it.

that 4th not it goes duh, I am the tank. I don’t come to the dungeon. you all make it come to me.

less of an issue at tbcc and wrath. we can fly there.

15 to 60 this gets fun. you have got a tank. yes! and its a draenei paladin. yes! 1 free racial heal for them jsut in case and a small buff to party for a 2nd racial.

and…they are in blood myst. you are planning on running mines. this is gonna be a bit.

No, i am pointing out its not an “optional” tool if it gets added as it was in wotlk 3.3.

It’s also complete BS. Anyone who cared about min maxxing was done with heroic badge farming before raids launched(which will also be a moot point going forward). And RDF never let you spam the good badge indefinitely anyways, you were always capped at 14 per week from heroics.

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When ulduar launches the heroic daily gives the same emblems as ulduar.

Which will still be capped at 14 per week so A) both significantly less than you’ll get from raiding and B) something RDF doesn’t let you bypass anyways making the the whole herp derp you can spam heroics for infinite good badges BS.

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Optional or not, still a better option than the current system

And what about alts? Should everyone have fully geared alts too before the end of the first month of xpac?

Also, people will need a way to run Heroic+ with alts to catch up with gear/alternative gear… Badge gear will help people get to Heroic+ too from leveling gear.

what a delusional take. ff14 already overtook wow lol. RDF is awesome in ff14. i made all my friends by joining a company and running dungeons with them using rdf to fill gaps. unlike wow, ff14 doesnt punish friends for trying to play with each other by putting in an arbitrary level gap requirement.

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You are incredibly delusional.

Nothing you present makes any sense. You’re forced to use RDF if it existed, but I’m not forced to manually join groups without it. :crazy_face:

No. The LFG tool doesn’t work at all like you stated here.

So, you’re a liar too.

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You can queue in lfg and wait for an invite. How is that not true?

So? Thats 14 more per week and if it is tied to rdf, that forces people who want to gear quickly to use rdf.

In your opinion. You prefer a different game design than i do.

So preform your group just like you do today and run RDF.

Problem solved, it’s not rocket science.

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Wrong. Theres a reason why you are responding to posts on WoW forums and not ff14. Because ff14 has rdf and its not as popular and as enjoyable as you say. Otherwise you wouldnt be here.

troll post. im not on ff14 cuz i beat the game. the last expansion ended the story and concluded with 2 extreme raids related to the story. Theres no reason for me to keep playing until maybe another expansion. Just like everyone is going to quit wraith classic as soon as they beat the lich king. Its ok to play more than 1 game and not live in just 1 game

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Yeah, it changes it from doubting you’ll ever get a group to knowing you’ll be in a dungeon in 30 minutes or less.

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