How many times do we have to cover this. There is ZERO evidence that RDF had any impact on the game. I challenge you to provide verifiable proof RDF had a negative impact on WoW.
Unless you can find some evidence that counters the countless graphs and data points that completely debunk this, you cannot use it as some fact.
This is all opinions that are not grounded on facts in any way.
Well…………if RDF did good for the game, why did the game tank afterwards? Because if subs kept increasing after RDF was implemented you would be saying the same exact thing as him and using that as your point.
If you are asking him to prove how RDF ruined the game, please prove to us how RDF made the game better.
It didn’t tank. We have already provided clear data showing that RDF had no negative impacts on subscribers.
Was there a decline in subs?
Nope, there was actually an increase over the next year AFTER it was implemented.
So why was there a sharp decline in subs after that year?? If RDF was so good wouldn’t it have kept increasing??? The way Vanilla/TBC/early Wrath kept increasing……pre-RDF?
Also the increase/decline right after RDF is not accurate as there are differing charts showing the decline happening during late Wrath and some showing an increase so one of us know which one is accurate…but we do know a decline happened, not less than 2 years after RDF was implemented.
There wasn’t, there was no decline till almost 2 years AFTER RDF was implemented.
This is from 2015, when RDF was not a huge topic of discussion since we didn’t even know we’ll get back to Classic. So there would be no influence on altering this chart to cater to either side.
And if you follow that chart you will clearly see:
Dec 2009 - RDF added
Oct 2010 - WoW reached its highest Pops at 12 million
Oct 2011 - First real reduction in Pop counts (~2 years AFTER RDF) where counts where below the 11-12 million mark.
April 2012 - First time Wow drops below 10 million ( 2.5 years AFTER RDF).
Fine then, if you’re going to play the subjective game and pretend to know how all demographics think…
Why did I get bored and briefly unsub in late Cata?
And you can’t blame it on RDF and LFR, since those are features I approve of.
It boggles the mind, after even posting pop data that clearly shows that RDF did not have any impact on player populations and the game did not see any real drop for almost 2 years AFTER the feature was added, they still insist on claiming there was some correlation.
It is unbelievable. Even their own data they provide contradicts their statements.
You gave me an idea for a new topic.
Interesting
Idiotic takes like this lowkeys makes me wish classic would die, so these people can find another scapegoat to blame for it dying.
Since they can’t blame RDF if it never gets implemented.
Classic wont die unless they add RDF or they just stop releasing expansions for it. Classic is blizzard’s second chance of not making the same mistakes they did in previous launches. RDF is one of them.
Also, to the idiots who posted the graph about peak sub count, you guys have no common sense whatsoever and cannot think critically for yourselves.
If you look at the graph, rdf was implemented at the end of wotlk. Meaning, the peak sub count that came after that was because WOTLK was so good and why was WOTLK good? Because no RDF. LOL.
Now after everyone paid their subs, they realized RDF was so detrimental to the game and decided to stop subbing hence the sharp decline after the peak sub count. The sub didnt increase because of RDF. It was because people are willing to try the new expac, however the decline was definitely because of RDF as evident of how classic is still popping today despite not having it.
Open and shut case. Anti-RDF Andies are wrong, have always been wrong, and will always be wrong. They have their memories damaged by being forced to do actual hard content in Cata.
Everytime someone joined as a subscriber that was because Wrath was good. Everytime someone unsubscribed, that was because RDF is bad. Flawless logic.
We can’t beat the impeccable reasoning of anti-social Andy who nobody said, “Hi” to in his random dungeon Scarlett Monastery. Now he’s out to salt the Earth because “nobody talked to me”.
RDF is so bad this guy’s playing a Dracthyr.
On retail.
Which has RDF.
Classic has been in its death throws since it’s conception and Wrath has a little over a year and a half left in the tank.
Subs tanked after rdf was added. Not immediately after, but thats typically whats known as the honeymoon period where everything seems perfect, until the blinders fall off and you start seeing the faults in the system. For rdf it took over a year for a large portion of the playerbase to notice the flaws. And subs to start to plummet.