Thats just the type of person he is. And if you continue to prove him wrong with facts he will eventually put you on ignore.
Spamming “LFM Utgarde keep” is literally not community building and social interaction.
Also, If you still think RDF removes social interaction, let me give you a reality check.
If you have been playing Classic since it launched, in those past three years, the lack of RDF has not undone the lack of social interaction that your side keeps claiming, I could run a couple of dungeons in Wrath classic if I wanted to and hear not a single peep.
The only social interaction and community that is left is still guilds and which many people look to guilds now and days if you want these things.
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No, but not liking that experience encourages people to make friends and social connections so they dont have to do that as much because they have social connections built to mot have to pug as much. To the point you should be friends with more than just your guild.
Rdf removes most of that encouragement to build social connections to not have to spam chats for finding a group.
You need to find a night time guild.
Also… that’s a late 2nd shift. I hope you’re getting a premium.
The other dude hit the nail on the head. Most of the people against RDF aren’t using the LFG tool at least not the way you are.
We actively grab friends and guildies then fill up the last 1 to 2 people if they are needed. That’s how these games tended to be played at the time.
I’ve never waited for 30 min… or spammed for 30 min.
It’s so sad how uneducated people are these days. You haven’t even learned how to read a simple graph. Your own graph show there was no loss of subs during wrath. In fact there was an increase in subs near the end of wrath. The decline is subs started after Cata was released.
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No, it causes most people to raid log and not play alts. That’s why the world is empty now. No one is going to go back to the Barrens or SV with their 80. So they raid log with it. And almost no one is going to spend much time leveling alts when it’s too hard to find groups. And since most people are only playing with their guild on raid nights and logging the rest of the week guilds play less together and are less strong
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Then you didnt really want to play the game that much to begin with if the minor inconvenience of making friends who play when you do is to much to ask to keep you playing an mmorpg.
The game being mid killed Wrath; that and Dragonflight easily being one of the best expacs they ever released.
You’re right. I didn’t want to play some bastardized version of wrath with all the additions from retail and without the major tools from original wrath. I’ve never been supportive of classic +. I wonder how many people would have played classic vanilla if the devs told us it wouldn’t have all the vanilla tools and they’d be adding things from retail. What people said they wanted at the time was no changes.
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If you are not happy with the state of wotlkc, you have other options. Stop forcing yourself to play a game you dont like. Its that simple.
I have the option of complaining about the changes on the forum. And to make it a bit more interesting and fun for me I can point out when you lie and how you’re so lazy that you don’t even care to try to play your class while your guild carries you.
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Sorry but in naxx, you can clear it will a full raid of gray parsers. So my not getting 90+ parse on every fight isnt being carried like you try to make it out to be. Come ulduar i will be aiming to do more, because it will require more than warm bodies. So no i am not getting carried. All me trying harder would do is make the raid finish a few minutes faster.
And you do have the option of complaining, doesnt mean you will get your way. Though i dont know why you would chose to keep paying for a game you dont like just so you can complain. Do you like complaining that much?
Get help dude. You are not well. Like, seriously. Don’t delay. For your own safety and everyone around you.
Ok, have you ever heard of the concept of market saturation? There will always be a finite number of people that even want to play WoW, this is called your market cap and 12 million was about that amount in 2009 - 2011. Your statement makes about as much sense as, “Hey why did X game only sell X number of copies?”, because no game will ever see continuous long term growth, once you reach your market cap, then sells/subscribers will level off or even drop.
Next, Cata’s subscriber drop happened nearly 2 years AFTER RDF was introduced, so as I have said before, there is hardly a correlation there. You have to look elsewhere for reasons why the game saw subscriber drops. Maybe people just got bored, maybe other games came out to take their attention, just as a note, if memory serves, Skyrim got released during this time, gee, I wonder if that might of had an impact? There are a large number of multiple factors, but RDF was most likely not one of them.
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According to those clowns Retail should be back up to 12 million subs since RDF isn’t used for endgame. 
If you want to keep indulging trolls in matters unrelated to RDF, that’s your business. But it would be just as effective to talk to a wall.
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I have given them the benefit of the doubt and am going to provide a reasonable and educated response. How they respond to this will determine my next response, which will most likely be a quick trip to the ignore list if they attempt troll me.
Logically no reason for RDF not to be implemented. You can even put it from 1-70.
Then again the people against RDF have no real reasons. They complain that people will not know what to do in heroics, yet they are the ones with multiple groups and guilds ready to level and group with them? Then don’t use it?
I don’t get it, nobody would force your guild or groupmates to use RDF. The argument is moot, logically. Nobody would force you to use RDF just like nobody is forced to use the group finder…
I mean have both RDF and group finder in the game so people who are “against” rdf don’t have to use it…
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There is a logical reason. They dont want classic to fail as its predecessors did before when they implemented rdf.
Why would they implement something that they already know would lead to majority of the players quitting classic?
Implementing rdf means majority of classic’s population will quit the game. Blizzard knows this and you guys are just the vocal minorities.
WoW will always tend to majority than minority of population.
When RDF was implemented in the game back in original Wrath I did not use it at all. Maybe once or twice but I wasn’t using it a lot. In Cata I used it heavily as everyone was using it. I loved it but then the game ended up getting boring after that. It just felt really…fast. It almost felt like a single player game instead of an MMORPG. And I’ve never got bored with WoW up until that point. That was my experience with RDF. I would end up unsubbing and only going back to try each new expac for like a few weeks then quickly get bored of the game the unsub.