So can we finally admit that not having RDF killed Wrath Classic?

so, why do you want rdf?

I could care less about rdf at this point.

Dungeons are dead and pointless.

You can skip heroic dungeons entirely.

Should rdf be in the game tho? Ofc it should have.

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And thats your opinion. Some agree with you, some dont.

Ya between strawmans and “your parses” junkies its no wonder blizzard basically ignores these forums.

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Thank you Captain obvious

Why are you all keeping this Garmuck troll thread going?

Not sure why the argument is even being brought up about RDF was in back then etc. etc…

I am fairly sure Blizz understands this since, ya know they made the game.

Also they told everyone before launch it would not be included. Everyone that is playing or joined knows this. Yet you still are playing and posting multiple threads about having a feature they said would not be here.

I personally do not care either way. But for a poor comparison, its like buying a car with a 4 cylinder and you know it has a 4 cylinder, but your not satisficed with that and demand a v-8.

Also, I personally do not think RDF is killing Wrath, its the retail expansion and everyone trying to check that out because you know, they have a sub. Once the expansion newness wears off, things will go back to normal.

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Well, I’m referring to people like him who’ve made 1000 posts on the subject that say things like, “Go play Retail if you want an authentic Wrath!” And “Keep RDF out of Wrath or we’ll end up with LFR and Garrisons!”

There’s a difference between posters who keep posting because they want an authentic experience, one that included a feature that has been cut out and replaced with Retail garbage that doesn’t address terrible problems plaguing Classic that an actual system from Wrath would directly address and fix…and fighting against that because you like pushing peoples’ buttons. What is the point in trolling for months on end?

Blizzard is on their side anyway. It’s not like they care what either side think. They care what requires the least possible amount of time and resources. That’s what dictates what’s in Classic. Anyone who objectively looks at this project and doesn’t immediately burst out laughing at the extremely obvious lack of care Blizzard has put into it is in need of glasses. Go hit up a BG. Like half of the participants are bots. Every BG…for months. It’s a freaking joke. But we’re supposed to think they care about authenticity, or the quality of the experience, or pleasing the playerbase?

p.s.-

No, this Blizzard did not make Wrath. Those people are long gone from the company.

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Sick character name

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not even remotely true. i can run a dungeon in 15-30 mins and get a level per run. questing is waaaaaay slower. theres only a few dungeons that are an exception, and even then its not a big enough difference to sacrifice group play

Pssst. Did you know you can place entire threads on ignore if you do not like them or do not have an interest in the topic.

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Ahh yes, that’s why they’re reverting all the boss nerfs in Ulduar and implementing a Heroic+ system.

:clown_face:

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That is literally a change to a few formulas and modifiers in the code.

See the answer above.

My rogue is able to use Axes, been that way since pre-patch, something that wasn’t available until ToC was released…

Weird right?

You’re completely wrong, but okay!

You can get dual spec, too. And tome of cold weather flight.

When posters talk about RDF not being in until halfway through the expansion, I just chuckle. That doesn’t matter for any other system in Wrath Classic. Or TBCC. Or Vanilla Classic. Not to mention Blizz has said it will never be included. So saying “Wait till ICC”…is just trolling.

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It just seems crazy to me to be against lfr. I never used it. None of my friends used it except for some alt. We all did the normal and heroic dungeons with our guilds. Did you use lfr? If so why didn’t you run the raids with your guild? Weren’t you able to find a good guild?

I just don’t care how other people play the game. It never bothered me at all when people used lfr and I didn’t. But some of you are such control freaks that you want to force everyone to play the game the same way you do. It’s just pathetic.

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Played long enough to get the mount and get to northrend. After I saw that it was real, no rdf, I quit and never looked back. Been preaching since even before this 2.0 lich king came out that it wasn’t classic. It’s bad devs trying to get their name into some that was already good. And what did they do? They broke it.

Morale of the story kids, don’t fix what ain’t broke.

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I agree that it would help the leveling experience.

However people will want it for any grp content, reguarless of levels and we will prolly end up in a daily thread, asking for the LFR tool, and in the end, that’s the one thing I don’t want in wow classic.

LFR wasn’t asked for in Cata it was a knee jerk lazy reaction from blizzard when they realized they killed casual/pug raiding.

What would be asked for is flex raiding, which is a good solution.

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