So Blizzard are not pulling the ripcord

Yeah, sure.

I’m not sure why you’d expect me to take the time out of my day to go and skim through thousands of comments in various threads and look for comments from “casuals”.

If you have a question then I’d be happy to respond to it but you can’t seriously expect me to start going through these threads looking for random questions to answer.

Nice dodge but no. If you’ve read through any posts at all from people who are in favor of pulling the ripcord, there’s plenty from casuals. You don’t need to particularly go searching for them.

So is it just that you wilfully ignore these posts so that you can continually justify pushing all the blame onto min-maxers and mythic raiders?

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It’s been a lot more than a handful. Not to mention the thread in the beta forums asking for feedback on covenant gameplay is not only overwhelmingly negative, but also gives detailed reasons why. It’s not like people are just saying “shadowlands is trash” or something. There are pages and pages on why the covenant system is bad, and how to fix it.

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I’m not “pushing blame” on anyone. I don’t raid mythic but most of the people I chill with do. I don’t have any ill feelings towards them. Oddly enough, many of them also agree with this decision. I just have a different view point on this topic than many of the people on this forum, which isn’t uncommon since the forum tends to be negative about anything Blizzard does.

The largest mega-thread we have on the forum in GD, which is open to everyone and not just players who got beta, has half of the 6k comments from 8 posters.This isn’t a huge deal to the greater majority of us.

Like I’ve told you in the dinosaur thread…

We, as humans, like to think that what is important to us is just as important to many others, when it means very little to most other people. This isn’t a huge issue to most players.

Exactly, the overwhelming response to covenants is to open it up and not keep everything locked. You are fighting an uphill battle here and have just admitted that most on the forums are against covenants how they are right now.

So you’re not “pushing blame” on anyone while also stating that the system will only affect people who are pushing mythic level content and not the average player… :thinking:

Only because most players don’t know anything about covenants or what they do or do not include. The overwhelming response from beta testers is negative.

Overwhelming? You think the forum represents a fair percentage of the actual community? Or do you think that a few content creators who know they get the most views from outrage topics counts as a huge percentage?

This is what you said about the dinosaur, it’s still not a huge issue.

And at the same time it seems a lot of people who are in favour of covenants as they are have forgotten that once you lock a soulbind to a certain spec it is locked to that specific spec for an entire week making it almost useless for another spec.

Several threads have actually popped up since they made it more public. That said, the dinosaur doesn’t heavily affect gameplay for the next two years. Covenants do.

This still doesn’t mean much in the big picture. I can spam post threads about multiboxing and why it’s good all day long but that doesn’t mean the masses agree.

I like how you ignore most of my post for that cherry picked line.

Edit: But back on topic. All I need to know about covenants is right here, and it isn’t looking good at all. Especially since blizzard has basically said they won’t even be trying to fix them.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/covenants-and-your-spec-a-survey/616438?u=voxplaga-ravencrest

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Classic Yesuna. She seems to be fighting pretty hard over an aspect of the game on forums which she claims to not be “emotionally invested” in.

Nah, you won’t ever see me “fighting hard” for anything here either. That’s like thinking I get “offended” here on the forum like you said earlier. I understand that Blizzard runs this show and no matter what I do or say will have no bearing on anything in the game. I am here to discuss opinions, not fight for anything.

No

Having to make a choice that has downsides is not a penalty

Than don’t choose the M+ setup, and choose the raid setup instead. This is an RPG, you don’t get to be optimal at everything simultaneously, you never were. And no it is not a 20% dps difference.

And I bet these raiders being left behind are not trying to be optimal, probably not even trying to be acceptable.

It is more like “you can change classes every 2 weeks”

The only content creators I listen to are ones that point out facts, like the recent Preach video that went over the math and logistics of how soulbinds are unlocked because that is a fact, not an opinion. I could not care less what their opinions are, only to get the information about what is coming, like how the covenants interact with dungeons.

Or how to unlock legendaries, and if they say it’s a bad decision to make legendary recipes drop how they are now than that is their own opinion, not mine, I just want to know where to find them.

And what, not do enough DPS and not be able to heal well enough in M+ and not be able to complete keys at a higher level because my soulbind is not setup correctly? That effectively puts me out of completing keys at my level just because I should setup for raid instead.

That’s the issue, we setup for one content and cannot effectively compete in other content because we are not setup the right way and that means we have to choose what we are going to do for the next week.

Like if I was to setup soulbind A as a tank setup, but it also happens to be my BiS for DPS and without it I would end up doing 15% less DPS, that means I have to choose now, tank OR DPS, not both. That effectively pigeon holes me into a specific role for the next week.

Arguing and alluding to the fact that your way of thinking is the only correct way of thinking and everyone else is a spoiled brat for thinking otherwise is not “discussing opinions”. And please maintain some shred of dignity by not refuting that, I’ve read many of your posts on this particular issue.

So yes, you are fighting quite pointlessly over something that doesn’t affect you in the slightest.

Thanks for letting me know what I think.

Why would I have to fight for this anyway? If I was fighting for this system then I already won. I’m not fighting for squat.