So, a static world forever...

10/04/2018 11:51 AMPosted by Heyyoua
I agree. I know people rage when you say this on a classic forum. And I am ALL for vanilla wow, but I mean once it runs out of time, if you don't make a FRESH server it will die. I honestly believe they should run through Vanilla>TBC>WRATH and then put that !@#$ on repeat. Go back to vanilla>TBC>Wrath.


I'm all about this, as long as they follow the timed releases they have in the original version. I don't want to rush through all of that in 18 months. If I could play Classic ----> Wrath again with original timeline? That would buy me 4-5 years of solid gaming happiness.
The issue will be people wanting to stop at certain points in the history of the game like BC or Wrath or Panda.

Personally i dont think there really is a way to please those people as you cant just put out a server for every version of the game people like. That is to say it would be unwise as a business decision to just do so. While it may create some sub communities for those games in the long run they would be far to small to really be reasonable and slowly just fade from there.

I personally think that classic is different in that aspect simply because it has a huge following of people and will have enough people to merge dwindling servers together. Once you spread people out you start to fragment the comunity.

The idea behind a Static Classic and Progressive server is, to me, the clear fix. It may take some time to get to Wrath but you know its coming. The community can be built on the idea that content come and expansions follow instead of the wait times we had when we originally played the game to wait for content to be finished. Eventually the game reaches a live server state where it has caught up and the process starts again for people with another Progressive server. Meanwhile the Classic folks are just enjoying Classic.
I really like Forum Posts like this. It concentrates all the people i need to add to the Ignore. Makes it simple.
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You know what, I'm okay with it. There is almost 3 years of content here which is more then what most wow ex packs bring to the table.
The world won't be static. There is a thing called WPVP that many will participate in which is all I want.
We do not want 2018 game design in our Classic game. Keep new content away from Classic.

Go play BFA or level some alts.
I could see Blizzard doing something like they did in D3 with "seasons" of perhaps pvp or pve content. This would allow people to work towards certain end game things while still having the "vanilla" feel to it all. I won't go into details on how it should be handled overall, but you get the idea. I loved vanilla but yes I understand after probably about 2 years I'll grow bored of it however at that point I'll probably work on alts just because leveling in general takes so much longer than current retail. Hell, people today burn through new expansions in a matter of months and are already complaining about lack of content so there will always be a few who are just that hardcore and want to complain. Perhaps they could work on going out and playing other games or doing other things. Either way they take the approach to the overall game, I look forward to it and cannot wait.
Once Classic becomes an enormous success, it wouldn't surprise me if the team moves towards recreating TBC.
I played 2 years of vanilla and didn't get bored. I played it for fun and fun it delivered!
I didn't hurry through anything. I tried other classes. I crafted as I leveled. I rp'ed. I chatted with guildies. I gave of my time to help new players with dungeon runs. I had a guild night to escort new players or toons to collect flight paths. Among other things.

When you take out the damn race to raid the whole world opens up to you!
Do not rush, and enjoy your time, and you won't burn out or run out of "things to do"!
I read posts like the OP, and I realize, “Damn, Classic really ISN’T for everybody.” I could not give fewer $&@$s about what you describe as a static world. I happen to love that world. Of Warcraft. This game is absolutely not for you.
10/06/2018 05:58 AMPosted by Barkamus
If Classic is a huge hit, they will release more content. Its simple business at that point.
Part of the reason it'll be a huge hit is because it is static content. There's no rush for players, there's no additional carrots dangled in front of them. And the content that does exist will take years and years for a single character. Content time-wise that'll last longer than several Current expansions.

So to destroy a reason players play is self-defeating. I'll tell you the second they add new dungeons and raids I'm gone from Classic. I don't want to play that never-ending game of chasing new gear. I'd still be playing BfA if I wanted that.
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I don't see why people are concerned about things never changing. Some people rank up insane amount of hours into single player games. While not all are games where they mod the hell out of it. Yet that is thought as normal and fine.

Something that put me off the current expansions. Unless I played on release. I feel somewhat rushed. I like to just take my time. I honestly don't know how raiders can do it. Gear up, new raid drops, gear up again. New expansion drops and everything they spent years doing just becomes worthless overnight.

But even if people do become bored overtime. How does that affect anyone? Even if classic WoW only last for 3 years. How many people came back just for that, so either way blizzard is making more money.
10/06/2018 05:58 AMPosted by Barkamus
If Classic is a huge hit, they will release more content. Its simple business at that point.
No actually, if classic is a hit, classic will remain its own thing.

The bigger picture here that many people seem to completely miss, and one that has far further reaching implications on retail WoW, is that depending how HOW successful classic ends up being, specific ideologies towards game / content / progression design going forward could possibly be influenced by classic wow elements.

Obviously not a complete reversal back to how vanilla played but perhaps classic wow success could cause retail wow to lean back more toward more lateral sandbox esque content that doesnt live or die on the current single raid tier. More fleshed out zones that we spend more time in to help create agency and place in the game world instead of mini zones that feel like WQ hub pit stops. Etc etc.

This is what i hope comes of classic. A wakeup call that wow has aged past a point of possible pure innovation each an every expansion. And that certain longer term lateral game designs actually are appreciated by enough of the current player base that blizzard realizes they dont have to coddle the player base while simultaneously trying to nab the money of the 10 year old Billy, the 23 year old edge lord esports aspirant Bret and the retired 65 year old Frank. This obsession with attracting the largest demographic possible is what has brought wow to its current state. Eventually, veteran player retention is going to be more important than new player aquistion. And im hoping the performance of classic will help make the desicion of what stays and what goes in retail going forward that much clearer.
>People claiming a static Patch will kill Classic
>Private servers end up becoming static
>People still play them for years after being static

Wut?
Yeah, move on and come back when that itch happens. It will always be there for you, whenever you want to play it. When you want to go on to something different, you go on to something different. There are a plethora of MMOs out there, which do have progression.

Do you see the beauty in that?
Vanilla->strawberry(bc)->earl grey, hot(wotlk)->reset on rotation till death.

Make it so.
10/06/2018 02:10 PMPosted by Fdsfxx
Vanilla->strawberry(bc)->earl grey, hot(wotlk)->reset on rotation till death.

Make it so.


Never going to happen.
10/06/2018 01:43 PMPosted by Syradra
>People claiming a static Patch will kill Classic
>Private servers end up becoming static
>People still play them for years after being static

Wut?


Private servers don't sit at naxx forever, the ones that do die out as players realize they can't progress their character any further and make a new character on a new server.
I can pvp everyday and not get bored with it. It should keep me busy for the next decade or so.
ICC

wut is "ICC"

this is Classic

also /ignore, stop telling me what I like