Perhaps you didn't play Vanilla, but played BC or Wrath.
I want you to try to remember a time, without the rose colored glasses, a time when ICC was out for what seemed like forever. Perhaps a time when BT, SCC, Any content really, had been out for a long period of time without new content.
Private servers are exempt from this in a way due to their nature.
The way they work is one opens up, it fills up, and then six months(ish) later another one opens up, promising everyone a fresh start, and new bobbles and gold wobbles! More transparency, better devs, less corruption, etc.
So what happens?
Well, 3/4 of the server bails for this "fresh start", and you're left playing an MMORPG that is actually quite dependent on other people. Alone. Of course not everyone will leave, but it gets bad. You can't fill the raid, you end up jumping in circles in Org or IF on your mount, perhaps hoping to see something fun to do in trade.
So what do you do? Well, you go to the new server and reroll your warrior. At least you have MC, BWL and perhaps some AQ to look forward to, especially since it's a fresh server. It can be fun, right?
How does this relate to Classic? Classic won't be going anywhere.
There will come a time when you will be sitting there in your capital, in your shiny gear, bouncing or sitting around, with nothing to do. Yes, even in vanilla you can run out of content.
Without additional content, the majority of the people will move on, your guild will die, and you'll be sitting there in front of your PC, a single tear running down the side of your cheek, wishing Vanilla would go on.
If you want Classic to remain, we MUST be pushing for a type of server that offers additional content post Naxx. I am not advocating removal of a static Classic, but an additional server type that offers progression.
It's the only way it will survive.
We're talking 2-3 years here, it will pass quickly.
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I agree. I know people rage when you say this on a classic forum. And I am ALL for vanilla wow, but I mean once it runs out of time, if you don't make a FRESH server it will die. I honestly believe they should run through Vanilla>TBC>WRATH and then put that !@#$ on repeat. Go back to vanilla>TBC>Wrath.
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Additional content is not needed. Eventually, bereft of more content, Classic will become a ghost town. This is the nature of any online game. But there will always be that dedicated core who remain, and the game will still be there for those who want to play. Communities will become even more tight-knit, but the game will exist as it should: a time capsule for a different, brighter era.
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A lot of vanilla content that people enjoy takes place outside of endgame raiding. I would be happy with a TBC launch that has character copy but I want to be able to go back and enjoy world pvp and just the vanilla life.
The stupid pro changers keep screeching on how vanilla will run out of content. This is a well known thing. Nothing lasts forever. This isn't a good argument. I would be happy playing a vanilla server for 2-3 years than anything else available on any gaming platform at this time.
It's much better than world of worldquests.
There is still EQ 1 and RS communities that have been doing the same stuff for 5+ years. These communities exist not because of endgame raiding but because people want that virtual mystical community.
No matter how many times I bring a level 25 shadow priest to westfall to kill quest npcs and try to get people to flag themselves to attack me, i will have fun doing it the next time. A lot of vanilla content had nothing to do with raiding.
The stupid pro changers keep screeching on how vanilla will run out of content. This is a well known thing. Nothing lasts forever. This isn't a good argument. I would be happy playing a vanilla server for 2-3 years than anything else available on any gaming platform at this time.
It's much better than world of worldquests.
10/04/2018 11:52 AMPosted by LightelfAdditional content is not needed. Eventually, bereft of more content, Classic will become a ghost town. This is the nature of any online game. But there will always be that dedicated core who remain, and the game will still be there for those who want to play. Communities will become even more tight-knit, but the game will exist as it should: a time capsule for a different, brighter era.
There is still EQ 1 and RS communities that have been doing the same stuff for 5+ years. These communities exist not because of endgame raiding but because people want that virtual mystical community.
No matter how many times I bring a level 25 shadow priest to westfall to kill quest npcs and try to get people to flag themselves to attack me, i will have fun doing it the next time. A lot of vanilla content had nothing to do with raiding.
I can only tell you what I want. I want Vanilla WoW...forever. No new content. If they add TBC server I won't play it. I just want Vanilla. But that's me.
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ppl will get 2 bored it wont work
There is no way in hell are they going to to make this so progressive we go through the expansions and start over.
10/04/2018 11:55 AMPosted by SyradraThere is no way in hell are they going to to make this so progressive we go through the expansions and start over.
If classic is successful there would be TBC server launches with a copy system i would assume. Then possibly wotlk as well. I don't think they we will ever see anything cata+ being reloaded.
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10/04/2018 11:55 AMPosted by SyradraThere is no way in hell are they going to to make this so progressive we go through the expansions and start over.
Probably not. I am just saying what I wish they would do. Either way, I believe if classic WoW was a massive success, it would be dumb NOT to make a TBC one afterwards. Most of WoWs community join in the TBC/Wrath era and would only be even more successful than its vanilla version. This is just my opinion.
I really don't understand why people don't like static. Thousands of other games are static with no new content. People still play and love a lot of these static games. I for one, will love playing a static classic wow.
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10/04/2018 11:57 AMPosted by Cybertilded10/04/2018 11:55 AMPosted by SyradraThere is no way in hell are they going to to make this so progressive we go through the expansions and start over.
If classic is successful there would be TBC server launches with a copy system i would assume. Then possibly wotlk as well. I don't think they we will ever see anything cata+ being reloaded.
A copy system would break the game entirely if those servers existed. Why should people already level 60 be able to go into TBC, while people who didn't play Classic have to start at level 1.
10/04/2018 11:47 AMPosted by MordegastI'm not speaking of the few of us who have downs syndrome and can play whack a mole or grind boars for 6 years straight, while laughing about seeing the boars get slaughtered.
Without additional content, the majority of the people will move on, your guild will die, and you'll be sitting there in front of your PC, a single tear running down the side of your cheek, wishing Vanilla would go on.
So what particular mental disability would you like to use to characterize people who always have to have something new in order to be entertained? Just out of curiosity.
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10/04/2018 12:02 PMPosted by HairylegsI really don't understand why people don't like static. Thousands of other games are static with no new content. People still play and love a lot of these static games. I for one, will love playing a static classic wow.
I personally don't hate the idea of static. It's just I think TBC and Wrath also deserve a resurrection and I know I would enjoy those two just as much as I would enjoy vanilla. I know a lot of other people feel this way as well.
so we could have a vanilla only classic.
and a tbc only classic, separate from the vanilla only classic.
and a wotlk only classic, separate from the first two.
then an alternate vanilla only, where they can explore new content added to vanilla. if its successful, an alternate tbc, either standalone or as a continuation of alternate vanilla. same for an alternate wotlk.
and a tbc only classic, separate from the vanilla only classic.
and a wotlk only classic, separate from the first two.
then an alternate vanilla only, where they can explore new content added to vanilla. if its successful, an alternate tbc, either standalone or as a continuation of alternate vanilla. same for an alternate wotlk.
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If classic is successful there would be TBC server launches with a copy system i would assume. Then possibly wotlk as well. I don't think they we will ever see anything cata+ being reloaded.
A copy system would break the game entirely if those servers existed. Why should people already level 60 be able to go into TBC, while people who didn't play Classic have to start at level 1.
Well this makes about no god damn sense at all. Are you asking for a character boost? When TBC came out, if people bought the game right then and there they start at level 1. I honestly want to know what you meant by this because it makes no sense.
10/04/2018 11:57 AMPosted by Cybertilded10/04/2018 11:55 AMPosted by SyradraThere is no way in hell are they going to to make this so progressive we go through the expansions and start over.
If classic is successful there would be TBC server launches with a copy system i would assume. Then possibly wotlk as well. I don't think they we will ever see anything cata+ being reloaded.
There's no way on hell Trump will be elected
There's no way in hell vanilla will ever be brought back.
Notice a pattern?
I don't want BC. The resilience stat ruined it imo.
I want a plus type server that actually has additional content added, it does not have to end, we're truly only limited by our imagination.
Only the stupid do not see that, and there's a lot of them out there.
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10/04/2018 12:04 PMPosted by SyradraA copy system would break the game entirely if those servers existed. Why should people already level 60 be able to go into TBC, while people who didn't play Classic have to start at level 1.
Because it's a imperfect world. TBC leveling from 1-60 is a breeze compared to vanilla leveling anyhow. People won't want to lose what they have in the classic world.
This has never been an issue for me whatsoever. In fact quite the opposite; in EVERY SINGLE EXPANSION including Vanilla i have been boggled as to why anyone would want an expansion already. ESPECIALLY when the expansion obviates the previous content!
I maxxed out TWO classes in Vanilla, and only used maybe two specs from each, why the HELL would i be done?
Although the content locusts are more prevalent today, that doesn't mean the old crowd is any more rushed.
I could happily play for a decade. I realize that's unfamiliar maybe even unbelievable, but it's a simple and easily demonstrated fact.
I maxxed out TWO classes in Vanilla, and only used maybe two specs from each, why the HELL would i be done?
Although the content locusts are more prevalent today, that doesn't mean the old crowd is any more rushed.
I could happily play for a decade. I realize that's unfamiliar maybe even unbelievable, but it's a simple and easily demonstrated fact.
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Well, if this is true, maybe people will try live game, its a win/win for blizzard and players.
Personally I think pop will drop, people that enjoy WOD/Legion/BFA will leave... and thats perfect for both worlds.
Personally I think pop will drop, people that enjoy WOD/Legion/BFA will leave... and thats perfect for both worlds.
There's no way on hell Trump will be elected
There's no way in hell vanilla will ever be brought back.
I don't want BC. The resilience stat ruined it imo.
I want a plus type server that actually has additional content added.
It does not have to end. We are only limited by our imagination.
Only the stupid do not see that, and there's a lot of them out there.
Your a fan of the God Emperor of the United States as well? I sure am!
TBC has a bigger following than classic honestly.
I don't trust Blizzard in it's current state to progress vanilla into a vanilla+. We are going to have abunch of stupid !@#$ added that will ruin the game. They havn't developed anything in the current game in the past 10 years almost that was a good idea. What makes you think they could develop new content for classic?
What they should do is create a world of startcraft and using everything they learned from the approaching 14 years of wow as a guideline for how to do it.