And there you go twisting the narrative again to fit your agenda.
Most people agree to remove flight restrictions from pathfinder because it’s a dated concept.
It has nothing to do with disabled people.
And insinuating devs are locking tbc flight because of “ego” is an excuse to weaponize the disabled for your agenda. How can you not see this? lol
To be clear I agree with some of the things you have posted so far, and we can never be 100% in agreement with everything. But we can show respect to one another and accept different perspectives.
That is how we as a positive WoW gaming community interact with one another. I do not feel any flying should be locked behind any gate. But I can respect people that want to see all flying behind the same gate.
Reasonable accommodations do not have to be exactly what that person wants to still be reasonable.
But I think we are beyond PF being dated concept. It now clearly impacts disabled players and these players are voicing their feedback.
PF was irrelevant as a patch retention mechanics for years and decades. That is why over time PF was moved up closer to launch and now it is superlfluous.
Despite this TBC normal flying is accessibility for disabled gamer according to them and if that is what they feel then BlizZard needs to accept this and turn the page. Easy win, easy solution and everyone is happy.
There is no extra steps needed to make this happen other than sheer will power from the devs to say okay we need to move on and let this segment of WoW history in the dustbin of history.
Easy choice but it requires minimal effort for such a large gain for disabled players.
Then we’ll get rid of PF, and revert slow flying to how it worked in Mists of Pandaria.
You really need to drop this angle. You aren’t doing anyone any favors.
Define a false opinion.
I believe green blues tend to accent off white better than blue greens. What part of that opinion is false? Good luck.
I believe TBC normal flying offers more of a zen like playing state than dragong riding and that is how I feel. How is that also a false opinion. What is next false feelings? False feedback?
At some point you have to draw the line and accept things for what they are. But sometimes you also have to be willing to be flexible and it is fine line.
But this is where flexibility is easy for BlizZard for removing PF gate to have access to TBC normal flying solves a lot of problems for minimal effort.
Yeah, it’s clear he’s trying to use disabled people as a prop for his agenda when he only thinks that feedback from some of the disabled people in this thread (not so coincidentally, the ones who agree with him) is valid.
That isn’t true at all.
In fact for the disabled in the real world business and public spaces go the extra mile to help out the disabled. That is why parking spaces are at the front and not the back of parking lots. Why ramps are very wide and with rails.
BlizZard goes above and beyond in game for arachnophobia feature so saying they can not do it is not true. They can because they have already proven they can. Like I said the only hurdle left is sheer will power and this is why we as positive WoW gamers have a lot of momentum on such a topic.
Unfortunately for him, some of us have been here since this nonsense started in prepatch.
What I find funny is he specifically targets pathfinder posts and cares nothing about other areas where disabled people actually struggle where there is no other option.
Heck my example of colorblindness got completely glossed over by the ones that supposedly want to advocate for disabilities.
That isn’t true which is why the mmo champ mods infracted your posts over thre for being very mean towards me on this topic.
I have been very civil when discussing flying topics on MMO champ and also WoW official forums.
Let this be clear for all to see.
For I am definitely an advocate for TBC normal flying but reality is I have been semi retired from these topics since DF beta.
DB beta two big threads started talking about disability and also how dragon riding was difficult for players to use. I never started those topics and I never participated in them!
I was proud to see players providing feedback though because that is what forums are about.
Some people mass flag threads they do not like and that is mean spirited. The easy and mature thing to do is ignore a thread or put posters on ignore.
But like I said before the truth comes out eventually.
One way or another.
Indeed.
You do know understand the topic either. The others we not skyriding before. Skyriding was added back as this multi chapter expansion (or last DF patch as they do with most upcoming expansions) look I have played this game for 20+ years done multiple betas some alphas, and numerous ptrs , just dropped out because like skyriding it has all gotten too hard for me to do all that with the multitude of the number of games I use to play. So, I had to narrow it down to a few. I miss them, I miss them heaps.
Also, yes, when I don’t have time, I don’t get to WoW also. So, I haven’t had time to LFR this expac like I normally would <== this anyone who doesn’t understand disability is called live experience. Why, in part in Australia, why the NDIS was for. The point here, is that I understand the game that some at Blizzard, here and the AI name bot (customer support) know or on a similar level, but not those high up of course. But with my memory I admit I will get things wrong or mixed up.
And no, I saw it, but he’s got it wrong and is trolling. Because skyriding was introduced through a patch into these places through a backwards engineered patch.
Also, you can get the flying for these places, as you get them, though some people level so fast, through Chromie time (in a single place) or other ways that they don’t get it until they are 80 (at the end). So, they get the other form of flying and use skyriding until the end. Though the option has always been there. He is just stating the obvious, like he has been, taking the light away from the topic. Which is one of the many ways to troll. You cannot see it, because you may have done it this way, and haven’t known another way until now. Then agree with him for the same reason, along with others because of same reason, then don’t recognise the troll.
Though he is because of the linking of the obvious, people get these as an in-game message in the game, they also get told what has been saying from other in game. I am sure they look at websites, before coming here; talk to support who suggests the forums; and numerous other reasons they do due diligence before coming here.
So, in short, the reasons I said to you and the reasons I have suggested I have listed just above (a warrant - yes like a police warrant, where they get that name from - police), they are trolling and in that post it is spam.
Lol’d I just wrote a similar thing, but it took me a little longer 
Not spam.
Just because you disagree does not make it “trolling” or “spam”. Vrak, our friendly neighborhood CM, had to clear that tidbit up with another disingenuous poster a few weeks back.
And if anyone is trolling here out of the two of us… it’s certainly not me.
People have accused me many things when it comes to flying topics. But I have been consistent in that I believe PF should go because it promotes toxicity and people feel they are superior over someone else.
In this case some people think it is a first world problem that people are voicing feedback about not being able to use skyriding and would prefer to use TBC normal flying.
Well this is the WoW forums and it is a privilege and honor to be able to play WoW, pay a sub and have internet connection and computer.
But the reality is that not everyone is as privileged as we are and in this case disabled players feel they are not valued enough as WoW cusomers.
As having 25= years experience in customer service I can say when every beta since DF and TWW accessibility is being discussed regarding with dragon riding aka sky riding then it is a relevant topic and not a “first world problem”.
Relatively speaking all topics are valid in general wow discussion as long as it is about WoW IMVHO!
Indeed. Especially when you get called out and refuse to respond after putting your foot in your mouth. (not @you btw)
Your post is fine as it was a follow up with a different tangent. In the end that this is why this topic is ongoing because these issues have never been resolved properly.
As positive WoW gamers we must understand that we as a community need to provide feedback in a consistent manner that is respectful but also clear and concise. No need for large charts or posts the length of war and peace. Simple feedback this is my issue, this is how I feel, and this is how it could be resolved or solved.
That is more than satisfactory as feedback for the devs to follow up on or if the CMs have time as well.
That is how we create a productive and positive WoW community.
Why do we have to revert back to anything? Why not just drop Pathfinder. Period. Full stop.
Easy solution and easy win.
Tbh I’d preferred if it stayed and just moved towards cosmetics.
And heck. Make it a meta achiev again like it used to be and take all xpac to do.
Give me some cool mounts and cosmetics.