Who said I was insinuating.? 
Watcher said it himself. If Watcher wans to clarify his statement that is 100% okay with me and others.
But because of Watcher’s statement TBC normal flying is considered accessibility. So, I think you need to move onto another argument because this one is not going well for you.
And yes that is why pathfinder must be removed.
Irony is dead and you’ve killed it.
I hope they find the strength to do so and turn away from potential darker paths. Once they return to the light only then can they begin to heal.
And healing is a big part of the WoW community with a positive gaming experience. We are all positive gamers and we are all supportive of seeing disabled gamers not have to deal with pathfinder anymore.
Accessibility has more meaning than just handicap access in the world, if its a fictional world or the real world. Thus by that alone, the timing of when you get that accessibility only matter to when the designer deems it to be. Specially in a game where you are talking modes of travel where you have alternatives in the 1st place already on the table too choose from in order to accomplish your end goal.
Understanding and disagreeing are very different things. I don’t agree with what you are saying because you are completely missing why I used the examples I used. It’s not on me to teach reading comprehension.
Not what happened.
Nope, not what happened.
It’s truly sad that so many people are permitted to voice their opinions yet so few are capable of comprehending what they are reading.
It’s not about the topics of suffrage or slavery, it’s about the will to fight against them for change. Too many people on these forums are afraid or lazy or both, of stating what needs to be stated or making it clear that change is needed. They fall back on “that’s how it is so we can’t do anything about it”, yet that’s completely untrue and it’s a copout.
Does that clear it up for you?
I’m going to block you because I don’t know if muting the thread stops notifications, but it’s a safe block anyway.
Here’s the issue with your “logic”, there’s no change needed. You want something. That is not a need for change. There’s no injustice by the powers that be. Just a lot of entitlement and people making demands, using disabled folks as a useful cudgel to insult anyone who disagrees.
Reading between the lines they believe feedback does not matter and these forums should not exist. But I am more mature than that and I will say that they believe this discussion does not matter to them and yet they continue to participate.
Putting on my thinking cap reveals that they care more about gold cost for alts to have flying than helping out the disabled players of WoW not having to do pathfinder.
I will not call it selfish but if they are honest about their opposition to lifting pathfinder maybe we can find a common ground.
But at the same time we as a WoW community can and should do better to help all WoW players.
My hot take is that it is completely irrational to think that the gold cost would even come back if pathfinder was removed completely for TBC normal flying. Dragon riding exists with no gold cost OR pathfinder gating.
That is why logic and the truth always wins in the end. Light always finds a way through the darkness of the world.
I wish they would go back to gold cost for flying…it separated the Wheat from the Chaff…
Again, all players. I know that pretending something applied to all players is specifically a slight at the disabled just happens to be your go-to, but pathfinder affects all players. And yes, I do prefer a quick achievement over paying 30k gold per character to unlock steady flight.
How overblown is your ego? People disagree with you so therefore the entirety of the forums shouldn’t exist? How fragile are you?
You’re the one who keeps bringing it up as a valid alternative.
Have you considered using either?
I really don’t understood how “every character has to spend a gold sink” to unlock Steady Flying is more accommodating to the disabled than “complete the story once”.
The unspoken part that they care more about of course is they want Dynamic locked more than they want Steady freed.
There is no social injustice being pressed here on the players from Blizzard. Every single person as exactly the same tools given, and the same requirement expected. They have the full power to choose to use this or that tool to accomplish it. It is a totally self imposed issue that some choose one way over the other. But all the same unlocked are there from the start for everyone. If they choose to use them or not is on their own. And there are alternative ways to unlock the same thing via other tools to accomplish the task. Skyriding can be completely 100% skipped in order to accomplish the same requirement that everyone had or has to do to unlock steady flight via PF.
I am really and seriously curious as to what disabilities are preventing people from skyriding. My Parkinson’s condition is severe enough to have me on the list for deep-brain stimulation surgery and yet I can still manage to do a fair bit of skyriding. Are people here referring to catastrophic disabilities such as loss of limbs?
I agree to an extent but with Dragon riding having no pf gate or gold cost the horse is out of the barn now.
So this is why removing pathfinder is a must so people can choose which tool to use whether TBC normal flying or Dragon riding.
Just my two cents.
Irregardless of the customers physically abilities, Pathfinder is an unnecessary, artificial, construct to which we (the customers) have no idea why it’s in place as a barrier for all players. That alone is very good reason why Bliz needs to either explain their actions, or eliminate Pathfinder. I find it egregious that this company is now owned & run by an extremely powerful worldwide corporation who is allowing this injustice to continue against their paying customers, while that same corporation brags about how they provide accommodation on their other games which allow players with disabilities to enjoy that content.
If Pathfinder applied to all of us and unlocked both forms of flight upon completion, I could understand its existence a bit better, but nowadays with Skyriding being the default with no requirements to unlock it, the restriction really does feel arbitrary.
It does apply to everyone, and for everyone it unlocks steady flight. Some folks have a vested interest in pretending it doesn’t apply to everyone but I can assure you, that is not the case.
Technically, yeah. I thought it was pretty clear what I meant though. If not, perhaps I need to clarify. For those who use Skyriding, it’s just another achievement to unlock. For those who prefer normal flying, it’s a bit more than that. It isn’t what I would call a huge struggle either way, but that was what I meant by my previous post.
Arachnophobia was used as a marketing tool for TWW as it was a point on their PR blitz. But they have a double standard by gating TBC normal flying behind pf when it is recognized as accessiblity.
Which is why this is an easy remedy for BlizZard but they are having a hard time taking easy wins lately. TWW is full of big losses so far because they lost the narrative a long time ago regarding how they think they know best.
Players are clearly communicating that pathfinder is superfluous at this point and in fact does harm disabled players the most.