Skyriding is too hard for disabled gamers

Because it was never about Blizzard or the game. It’s about their warped and twisted view of the world.

That said, I feel that the system we have in place is fine, but I also understand that not everyone will feel this way.

I am also fine with them adding more accessibility options to Skyriding. Making these things easier for others isn’t going to affect me in any way.

Talk about it TWW being impossible from the ground aside, I think that’s where the discussion was meant to go.

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What an odd generalization. People are just asking for standard flying to not be gated… how does that make the content bland exactly?

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Because for some folks any request for quality of life improvements means you want to nerf the game.

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585 posts since last night… do I really want to read all of this or go :man_surfing: :surfing_woman:

sorry, but putting minigame flight ahead of normal flight when leveling is a flex, not an accessibility thing which it currently is according to Ion

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So you agree steady flight should be baseline alongside sky riding, yes?

Just to make sure we’re on the same page.

I really don’t care if Blizzard were to add steady flying as an immediate unlock in TWW tomorrow.

But I also don’t think it’s a solution to the problem. The solution is that WoW as a game lacks an interface necessary to make skyriding more feasible for those with disabilities, so Blizzard needs to put in the research and development necessary to equip those who need the assistance.

Moreover, I don’t think it’s very honest of people to come into threads and generalize what’s happening here. It’s near impossible to have some sort of discussion over this when the slightest pushback against the inclusion of steady flying is immediately met with the assertion that we’re all ableist demons who don’t want disabled people to play the game.

In my humble opinion, it’s more offensive to be used as a cudgel and assume the broader disabled community is categorically deficient at using skyriding, and in some ways, I find it more offensive to assert that disabled people should get the archaic form of flying as their “disability option” as opposed to just developing a robust toolset that’s better tailored to their needs. That is true inclusivity, not whatever it is people are throwing tantrums about with steady flying.

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I don’t really believe I have, because the point of this thread was never about the utility of steady flying. It was, however, about its viability vs. skyriding for disabled individuals.

If skyriding was more accessible to everyone, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

You don’t seem to understand what quite a few people have already stated several times, on more than one point, but this one is easy to explain.

Nobody misused anything to flag the OP because it is considered spam. It’s considered spam because the person who posted it made more than one original topic on the same subject within minutes of each other.

If you can’t grasp this very simple and basic explanation then it’s no wonder you’re arguing with everyone.

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this is a duplicate thread on the same issue that is why people flagged it

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Doesn’t seem like it to me, no. “They want you to interact with the world” when Skyriding CAN just mean hit two buttons and glide at times. In reality - what you and Blizzard are doing is being

and it’s easy to tell by your general tone.

Can you still use ground mounts and ‘afk’? just like static flying? yes. Can you queue into any content from anywhere like follower dungeons and avoid death/danger? Yes. Can you use random items to fly off the zone like a comet? Yes.

Does anything change from your character from doing the campaign using skyriding instead of static? Not really, no. In fact with skyriding you see LESS of the zones/areas.

I don’t think any of the devs talking about it were working on this game then, from what I can tell?

You fly very fast most of the time not seeing much of the ground. Like quest mobs.

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What does that mean? They’re the same exact function in that you fly over the terrain.

Sky riding has a visual blur feature, plus the 2x faster speed, you literally see less of the zones.

To that point, I actually noticed MORE details of landscape and greater structures when I unlocked old flying in each expansion.

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You understand that you can just… stop, right?

Also, you control the speed in which you fly in skyriding. If you don’t wanna go uber fast, then don’t. Nobody is forcing you to fly at optimal speed.

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If I was going to fly my sky riding mount at the speed of steady flying, I would simply toggle steady flying so I didn’t fall out of the sky because I failed to hit a button.

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The only thing you have to do to ensure you don’t fall out of the sky is angling slightly downward every so often and pressing spacebar to gain altitude.

I wasn’t contesting your ability to use steady flying. My point was the idea that you see less with skyriding is false. You control how fast you fly and where you fly. They both function the same.

We’re arguing semantics anyways.

I agree with you that

The problem is it isn’t, and the most accessible version of flying is currently gated. Something has to change one way or the other. I know someone who has directly had to deal with the lack of physical accessibility of some game features, so this is somewhat of a personal issue.

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Yeah and with pf existing to flex over disabled players makes no sense. What does BlizZard gain from this?

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Likely, but OP switched characters and probably couldn’t find the prior thread they made, thought they never made it, or something like that. I have done that before on accident especially when every time I log into the forums especially for other devices it picks a random character. It didn’t seem malicious by OP. There is quite a bit of malicious spam around on the forums but seems like it’s the least enforced thing.

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Ah got you.

For some odd reason they view feedback to remove pf as an attack against BlizZard WoW which is odd. People are asking to improve the game so they play more and not less.

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