We have that. You just have to form groups manually so that way you cant blame Blizzard for your failures
Has nothing to do with engagement levels as its the most engaging form of content at max level
Thats a you issue and not a blizzard fix issue.
Why would you want to risk it or even enterain the idea when we see what we see in premades?
And no 100%, maybe not. However you do go in expecting to time it. This would have the opposite mentality.
And I think we both no failure rate would be much higher than success rate. Especially in higher ranges.
Haha oh I remember. Good times 
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Talk about the drop from group rates soon as you see an all melee/range group
The group doesnt have lust
The group doesnt have a brez
Tank is using a caster trinket for the ilvl
Now back into queue for another 90 minutes
Pristine system 
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Tbh I don’t think queue times would be the problem. But yea… first sign of a problem, group comp, no hero, no brez…
But tbh the people using lfg primarily would be either new people or people looking for completion lol.
And then it goes into… I don’t know if it was said yet but… its toooooo hard! why is lfg so difficult?!
Actually now thinking about it… sure lets have a m+ lfg. Maybe I’ll time more of my premade runs
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Honestly, I just wish they’d implement this queue system so that the crowd thats asking for it will get their wish granted.
It’s 99.99% likely to be a major flop that isn’t well received and the barrage of complaints about wait times and bricked keys will flood the forums, but at least blizzard can say they’ve tried to queue system suggestion and we can be done with it.
Give the people their queue, have some intern set up the criterias you can choose from when assembling your queued group.
As long as it’s optional it’s a net positive for me as it will remove some of the worse players from the premade system.
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So long as they give a 24/7 spectator option like tournament style
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That’s every one of these threads. Magically all the people who refuse to use the currently available method to “just play the game” would all of a sudden be willing to queue for the.
Except blizz will just bust out the nerfbat and crush m+ into oblivion like every other queued content.
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Holler if you do keys tonight my guy
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all +13s timed is the top 1% of mythic plus players.
0.01% is roughly all 16s and a few 17s.
0.001% is not even tracked by raider io.
Working. Won’t be until after reset 
but should be good most of Tuesday before raid time if you want
Probably be the top 15 io scored players
Thankyou 
In my defence, it’s not fully proofed against faults – so it could still work … In a sense 
But I still understand I used the wrong word, lol cheers — But I’d also argue that such was due to me being malnourished from my coffee fix at the time 
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i gaurantee you it would not be a 90 min wait in solo q. You basically see a mass exodus or off meta players from lfg. People that just want to play the game and play for fun will go do that. Crest farmers aren’t gonna sit in lfg they’re gonna go to q and q up the best pug dungeon (ara’kara for instance) and get their stuff done instead of playing lfg. Put that in the game and you’ll eat those words.
Run. Your. Own. Key.
You can already do this and I’ve already explained above the advantage of solo q, i’m not responding to these anymore.
It’s always fun seeing these “I want Blizzard to force people to have to play with me” posts.
They should be forced to play without regards to the meta. Whether thats me or one of hundreds of thousands of other players is rng.
because they would rather have some epic own on the wow forums. These forums defend all kinds of ancient designs for reasons that have little to do with rationality.
Yea they don’t argue in good faith they just don’t want someone else to have a desired feature, because they want to play “ha, gotcha! check mate!” I’m probably higher rated than most of the people responding to this, I have already paid my time to lfg, I want a solo q. And I continue to say “nobody is forcing you to play solo q, don’t want it? Don’t play it.” Those of us that DO want that, should be able to have that. It’s childish to get mad at the idea of other players having fun in solo q on their preferred classes/specs rather than declined for meta exodia comps.
Solo que wrecked pvp.
It didn’t change anything. People jus q up for solo q in addition to their other qeues, literally nothing changed. RBG yolo and premades are still in lfg, nothing changed. I can only imagine premade 2s/3s. I’ve never heard this take before nor noticed any difference. I can only think of the removal of mandatory world pvp on pvp realms with War Mode as being such a massive blow to pvp and rpvp that’s never been addressed. It changed economies dramatically and since tw dungeons are the fastest way to level, war mode is just for farming crates for honor/tokens/conquest and nothing else really.
It would be 3 hour queues with people demanding changes to not only the queue system but to make m+ easier.
I don’t think so, people are already asking for m+ to be easier. I wouldn’t blame a solo q due to the unpopular dungeon design choices blizzard has made in this season or some of the most abysmal seasons. I think solo q would be more popular lfg personally. I said above, go to lfg and type +16, tell me how many keys are listed (it’s prolly less then 10 if not less than 6.) Then make a listing for +15/16, you’ll get like 4x times the number of applicants compared to available keys. You’ll periodically see people post “I just wanna play the game,” in lfg. Just yesterday i saw a 3.4k mage post “You win lfg, I crash out,” group description “getting declined from +15 keys I’ve timed on +17.” Defending this system benefits nobody. They can exist in parallel, qeue leaver debuff would also be an immediate punishment to the natorious issue of people leaving before depletion.
Which means it might not work for them, as ones that complain about such things might just be the kind of trash no one wants to deal with in their groups so they have to resort to queued content to get groups.
I’m 3.2k+ rated. 99.8th percentile in m+ on wow logs. Ranked 180 MWs on wowlogs. 728th ranked of ALL healers in the US & OCE on RIO. Top 50 MW US RIO. The only mw higher rated than me on my realm is literally megasett. I’m not the best, but I don’t think that is the problem. People have literally whispered me that they like mws but need/want a disc priest when applying to their groups. I’ve seen people list keys as low as +12 with Disc in the title. I want a solo qeue so I can play the game at the key level i find challenging/fun. Insulting people is a pointless thing here where nobody benefits. It’s childish.
Because they like to tank or heal but don’t want to use the premade group finder.
Bingo. 1 exclusive spot in highly limited top keys, people are going to prefer meta for the best chances statistically. I blame the dungeon design and tuning for it this season and the punishing nature of challengers peril and overabundance of tank busters and spammable one (or 2) shot casters. Also spam massive unavoidable aoe means the spec with the most damage mitigaitons is the best typically. 2 pain sups, rapture, bubble to avoid the most problematic things or fix mistakes (makes it more forgiving to be caught out bad), etc.
So what happens when the queue assembles a group without a hero/lust? What if it has no battle rez? What if the comp doesn’t really have ways to deal with the special affixes?
So for lust blizz could give a special action button/conjured item that is basically lust. I don’t see any problem with this honestly. Bres would be a little trickier good question. Might just be resolved by giving everyone a free personal soul stone buff on 5 min cd/coolup. Might have to think on that one though to come up with a more effective suggestion for bres. Lust is easy tho just make it a special action button anyone can press or maybe that tank can press. Tanks in higher keys especially will know when they want lust with their route, generally. And it wouldn’t be hard to learn either.
There’s just too many things that would be problematic for a random group, especially at higher levels.
They can make a work around for lust super easy. Bres would be a little complex but I’m sure something can be done about it as well. They made concessions for solo rbgs with the differences between rbgs and rated bg blitz, and the additions of pvp specific talents, so solo q m+ wouldn’t have to be too far removed to fix those issues. I actually think it would make the format wildly popular by removing class limitaitons on these things enabling people to play whatever they want. Like, for example, an omni dispel for healers in Solo Q, so mw and hpal can dispel curses, and i forget who can’t dispel disease or poison or whatever it was they don’t do. Easy fix np. Then you can JUST play the game you’re paying for instead of playing lfg and/or the meta.
That just moves the issue onto someone else who’s queuing for your key. If we all ran our own keys this wouldn’t work either. People need to sign up in sit and Queue for it to work. Not a fundamental solution to a real issue people have.
Ret paladin is meta and over-represented in keys with recent data showing a ret paladin was present in like 49% or 59% of all keys. You are a meta spec and there is a preference to take you. You also have not, at least on that toon, reached the point of doing the same level of keys as me where the key to player ratio is massively different, so you end up with like 100 people that all wan to do the same 3-10 keys. You’re denying the existence of these problems because you don’t experience them. Ret is very good for m+ because of their inherent tankiness, low cd burst windows, and sometimes group utility (it’s always nice to have but for some pulls it’s very good to have.)
When I post a key i prolly get like 30 ret paladin applicants in 5 seconds.
I actually tend to prefer off meta tanks and stuff depending on the dungeon because I know 50% of the reason a prot paladin got their spot in a key was because of their spec, but a brew master absolutely grinded and suffered and is prolly amazing. This is actually how i found one of my favorite tanks to play with and is a very good tank. If I wasn’t willing to gamble on people like that and only played the meta, wouldn’t have made that friend. You’ll make a lot of “friends” in m+ that want to come to your keys but not let you come to theirs. The way the system is right now doesn’t encourage “fun” or variety or inclusiveness of its player base. A solo q for people that want to play keys at a specific level they find challenging and fun without regards to the meta would be awesome. Heck it might even be cool if RIO or Blizz hid your spec info and only showed your rating and role, but I think the lfg preferring crowd would generally dislike this and see it as underhanded. I’d prefer just to have a solo q for blind draft games.
And I fully suspect that 85% of those will be only looking to DPS. So tanks/healers will get almost instant queues, and DPS will be waiting 60-90 minutes.
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Non meta tanks/healers get instant invites.
Why would any tank/healer join the queue for a statistically worse group?
lol no, people want prot pal and disc priest or to a lesser extent rsham.
Why would any tank/healer join the queue for a statistically worse group?
To be able to play the game as any spec they want at the key level they find fun/challenging without the exclusiveness of lfg meta comps and such. I already explained this over and over in this thread so I don’t feel like typing it all out again. The first sentence of this response is the tl;dr
Aside from the fact you do need 4 others to sign up for your own key, the majority of folks do not run their own key.
So this is the same problem as “tank shortage”. You put yourself into the solution pool (play a tank / run your own key) and it becomes the solution all simply because the masses will complain about a problem instead of being part of the solution
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For the handful of people doing above 12s, sure.