Silenced Players Can’t Apply to Groups?

there was no mention of that.

Look.
It doesn’t matter what I show you, you’re still going to invent some pathetic reason for why you’re not willing to accept what’s being said.

If I pull up 30 posts of people complaining that they were actioned for abusing the report system, you’d just argue that “well they can say whatever they want, it doesn’t mean it happened!”

If you’re genuinely interested, head over to the classic forum and ask.

…or survey the people who abused the report function when that moron streamer asked people to report him for lols.

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For mythic plus it ruins a run and is in fact reportable from my understanding.

It’s not reportable. Anyone can leave any group they want whenever they want, for any reason they want. Just as anyone can initiate a vote to kick for any reason they want, or no reason at all.

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I honestly didn’t know that. That kind of sucks for people doing the key tho doesn’t it?

Assuming you weren’t toxic in chat (we have no reason to believe you were), I can’t see how one jerk spitefully reporting you is going to end up with you being silenced.

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It does, kinda…

I’m a firm believer in playing with people you know and forming lasting relationships with guilds and real groups though. I can’t say I really feel bad for pugs who encounter stuff like this since it should be expected when you play with random players and there is no personal responsibility to be had.

Don’t get me wrong I most MOSTLY with guildmates myself and while I don’t report people for that it’s shocking it isn’t allowed.

I had so many runs ruined in BFA I left ‘noped’ out of doing them at all.

It looks like the new “meta” for LFG pug groups with strangers might just evolve as follows going forward, as people look to protect themselves:

  1. more pugs will demand “get on Disc” to side-step this BS altogether
  2. refuse to get on Disc? declined :smiley:
  3. in the case of a trivial content where people don’t bother with Disc, you would just not say anything in the chat at all (not even “hi”), and simply leave if the group is bad… if toxic or false-flagging community members have nothing to right-click on and “report”, then you can’t be silenced
  4. in the case that one of your friends or guildies was a victim of this, you would simply fill the group to 4/5 party members and (manually) invite the friend last, to get around the “unable to apply to groups” restriction

Seems like this proposed change will have the most negative impact in random pug groups. Static groups and groups of friends/guildies should be mostly unaffected.

Has it even been confirmed if the auto squelch that can be initiated by player reports counts for this punishment? I suspect it will only apply if you get an official silence after review.

Regardless though the outrage is just people upset their actions might have consequences which is hilarious to watch.

Isn’t this change only going to negatively impact people who are toxic? Sounds like a win to me, from the perspective of someone who isn’t a jerk in groups and isn’t worried about being reported for saying hello or making small talk with people.

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Yes it only affects toxic people but that doesn’t give them a good argument against it so they fabricate these scenarios where some poor innocent person is silenced by a hate mob for saying hello.

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A squelch is a temporary thing, you only get a true silence after it’s reviewed and deemed appropriate.

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Given people were flat out blaming me and giving me grief because of my ‘bad route’, regardless if it was my fault or someone else’s because yes you can get it all, a tank who does a bad route, DPS who pull additional, a healer who typhoons enemies into other enemies, or all of it. Yes you will get people who will grieve and report you because they want someone to take the blame and someone to be punished for being the one who is at fault.

It will be a fail system because you will 100% get people being reported for being the tank who has a bad route, a healer who lets people die, a DPS who has no interrupts, a DPS who does bad DPS, or all of the above and just wants to feel like god so they report others to take the blame because they think they are never at fault.

I have seen it all, including the DPS who do garbage DPS, never interrupts, stands in the crap, pulls additional enemies and than yells and screams that the rest of the group are bad and leaves the key, no doubt these types of players just want to feel good about themselves and not be at fault, adding in an actual punishing system will make them use it falsely.

There is no way blizzard is going to apply a silence penalty on you if you’re not being a jerk. You did however describe the behavior that does get people silenced when you mention those people who yell and scream that everyone else is bad etc.

Those are the jerks that get silenced.

If you don’t act like that, what are you worried about?

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You haven’t pulled up ONE.

That’s all I’ve asked. As I said before, NO I will NOT believe them, however I will concede the point to you that people are COMPLAINING about it. You haven’t managed even ONE. After saying it happens all the time.

Blizzard doesn’t apply the silence effect. It’s automatically applied when enough people report you in chat. There is no review process, some troll guild decides to report you, bam you’re silenced. You can CONTEST it, and 24-72 hours later a GM will review it and remove it if it’s not valid, but for that period of time you would now be LOCKED OUT of lfg.

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The reporting system is 100% automated until someone makes a complaint and than it goes to a person. Blizzard don’t do anyting, it’s up to us to police ourselves and if you are being a colossal jerk than we will report you and we will ensure you get silenced and/or banned.

if you think it was false, than it is up to you to contact Blizzard and prove it to them.

Forum Mod Edit: This post has been edited by a moderator due to masked language as it is in violation of the Code of Conduct.

As an aside, this is also inaccurate.

You are describing a squealch applied when numerous people in chat report you.

That’s different than what the person I was replying to was talking about. They were worried that some salty jerk in a dungeon would report you for being “bad” etc.

A squealch is the result of numerous people reporting. There is no way a silence penalty will be applied because one jackwad in a dungeon was raging at you.

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Some salty person will report you. Than the next salty person and eventually the reports add up and you will get a silence. You think one person reporting you now and someone doing it 30 minutes later doesn’t all add up?

This post is about the “squelch (Blizzard calls it silence when it effects your game play like removing you from a BG)” and how in 9.1 it will lock you out of applying to groups and posting in the group finder.

No one is concerned about ONE person. We know it takes 5-9 people. That’s not asking alot.

I think you’re mistaken. However, I believe you when you say you’re not a jerk like those people, so I wouldn’t worry about being silenced.