Sick and tired of Premades in Epic BGs

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

Do they need to post a list of rules every day?

No they have that “meme” called the TOS. But you guys don’t care about that.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Freydis-eldrethalas

Because the TOS says different.

No, your interpretation of the ToS says that Rogues using Stealth is cheating.

[Floweret-stormreaver]

Agreed. If it was 20 vs 20 it would be more fun imo.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Akatsüki-stormrage

Greg street hasn’t worked at Blizzard in like 8-10 years.

And? the TOS hasn’t changed.

[Akatsüki-stormrage]

We have a literal CS/forum CM coming out and saying it isn’t cheating. Do you think they don’t have access to the TOS or don’t talk to the dev team?

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

No, your interpretation of the ToS says that Rogue Stealth is cheating.

what? HAHAHA you are so childish it’s just sad. Stealth is part of the game, correct? Correct. Queue sync is not part of the game you are “manipulation” the game in order to do it. I promise this stuff isn’t hard.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Freydis-eldrethalas

. Queue sync is not part of the game

It clearly is…

@Vrakthris

To be clear though, queuing at the same time as someone else isn’t considered cheating.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Akatsüki-stormrage

We have a literal CS/forum CM coming out and saying it isn’t cheating.

Where? Only some random community service guy talking about AV said anything close to what you claim. Does community service reps overrule blizzard themselves now?

[Akatsüki-stormrage]

Syncing queues via countdown in 5 man parties isn’t against the rules, as stated by Vrakthris yes.

Come on, this isn’t hard guy.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

It clearly is…

I love how you always ignore the parts proving you wrong and go back to posting something unrelated lol typical childish behavior.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Akatsüki-stormrage

Syncing queues via countdown in 5 man parties isn’t against the rules, as stated by Vrakthris yes.

Again, it does not matter what he says… if he saying hacking is ok does that mean it is?

[Akatsüki-stormrage]

Greg street is no longer a Blizzard employee, Vrakthris is and has stated it isn’t considered cheating.

Argument over, move on.

How in the hell is a literal forum rep telling you it isn’t considered cheating not count as an official Blizzard statement? He works for the company.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Akatsüki-stormrage

Vrakthris is and has stated it isn’t considered cheating.

Again, he doesn’t get to overrule the game TOS… the fact that you think he does is simply insane lol

[Valarien-area-52 (Valarien)]

Did they say 5 man queues specifically?

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Freydis-eldrethalas

I love how you always ignore the parts

Which part of your opinion, which you think proves me wrong, did I ignore?

[Iì-atiesh]

@Vrakthris

To be clear though, queuing at the same time as someone else isn’t considered cheating.

@Holycow-uldaman

Playing with friends is fun and important, but it shouldn’t come at the expense of the spirit of the game nor the fun of others.

The normal Battleground queue is for players to jump in and play against other players in a similar situation. We realize that it’s not a perfect system, and we’re still looking at ways to improve normal Battleground queues further. Regardless, it’s not meant for organized groups to “pug stomp” and get quick Honor. We have built in outlets for players that want to organize–if a competitive, social experience was really the goal, then there are clear ways to achieve that.

The ultimate effect that this kind of queuing has had is to drive players away from PvP. Perhaps it’s been a long time since you’ve been in a random group, but a lot of players will see that they’re up against a premade and simply quit. At best, they suffer through it. To an extent premade groups count on this.

@Holycow-uldaman

We decided to make this change in order to improve the experience for all players who are queueing into random groups normally and expecting to face similarly random groups, only to find themselves crushed by a full team of coordinated opponents.

We understand that players want to enjoy coordinated team play, and we invite those players to queue into Rated Battlegrounds or play Wargames to have that experience.

ya ok. blizz also said this 5 years after that post.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

Which part of your opinion, which you think proves me wrong, did I ignore?

The part where the TOS is the final say in what is allowed or not. Do you not agree that the TOS is the rules?

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Iì-atiesh

ya ok. blizz also said this.

They don’t care what anyone but someone that agrees with them says.

[Akatsüki-stormrage]

Again, do you seriously think Vrakthris wouldn’t consult with his supervisor/legal/developers before making statements like these?

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Valarien-area-52

Did they say 5 man

What does the number of people in the groups matter?

If it’s 2 people in separate groups, it’s ok. If it’s 4 people in separate groups, it’s ok.

If they are in the same group, then why even mention it?