Sick and tired of Premades in Epic BGs

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

It’s quoted from a blue text… and you already know this. But you are being willfully ignore

[Inemia-wyrmrest-accord]

prove it

/10char

[Holycow-uldaman]

@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

the older post was deleted by blizzard

All forum posts were lost when Blizzard changed their website’s forum software. It’s not like Blizzard deleted those specific forum posts in order to make a retraction.

@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

fundamentally just personal commentary from the blue who delivered the message.

The community manager explained why the Blizzard devs made a code change to disable addons that were being used by premade raids to get into random bgs. This was done in consultation with the PvP devs who made the code change, but of course you’d think he just made up random personal reasons.

In addition, the dev in charge of PvP had tweeted that premade raids vs. random pugs is against the spirit of fair play and they don’t like premades circumventing the 5-person limit, but who cares what they thought right? Premade raiders just ignored him.

It’s sad that devs have to explicitly tell some players that a premade raid vs. random pugs isn’t a fair fight.

@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

no

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/7200052820-joinbattlefield-post-51-part-2/

We decided to make this change in order to improve the experience for all players who are queueing into random groups normally and expecting to face similarly random groups, only to find themselves crushed by a full team of coordinated opponents.

We understand that players want to enjoy coordinated team play, and we invite those players to queue into Rated Battlegrounds or play Wargames to have that experience.

Playing with friends is fun and important, but it shouldn’t come at the expense of the spirit of the game nor the fun of others.

The normal Battleground queue is for players to jump in and play against other players in a similar situation. We realize that it’s not a perfect system, and we’re still looking at ways to improve normal Battleground queues further. Regardless, it’s not meant for organized groups to “pug stomp” and get quick Honor. We have built in outlets for players that want to organize–if a competitive, social experience was really the goal, then there are clear ways to achieve that.

The ultimate effect that this kind of queuing has had is to drive players away from PvP. Perhaps it’s been a long time since you’ve been in a random group, but a lot of players will see that they’re up against a premade and simply quit. At best, they suffer through it. To an extent premade groups count on this.

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@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

i just want to point out that you have more forum posts than honor kills.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

Well, that’s good, there are no addons which do that anymore.

Why lie? I really don’t understand why you are such a fact denier lol even when the evidence is out there for everyone to see you still will deny it.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Freydis-eldrethalas

Why lie?

Which addon is enabling queueing a raid into an eBG?

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

Whatever addon Inemia is using lol there are videos of him doing it.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

Do you mean BG commander? It’s really nice QoL stuff for everything Battleground, I really enjoy having it while in an RBG group, for instance.

[Inemia-wyrmrest-accord]

there are? news to me, i would love an addon that lets us raid queue, wouldn’t have to worry about split pops anymore if that were the case.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

ahh here comes the denial lol classic

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

i would love an addon that lets us raid queue

Also never said it lets you raid queue because you can’t it’s let you automate your queuing.

[Inemia-wyrmrest-accord]

these guys hear “addon” and “premade” and think we are all using oQueue again.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

It lets group leads manage their group better. It does not automate queuing. Group lead still has to manually click queue.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

these guys

These guys? Sounds like a pejorative.

[Inemia-wyrmrest-accord]

now that the first right thing you have said all thread

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

Nah, ‘people like you’ is nothing near ‘these guys’. Try again.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

It does not automate queuing.

It makes it so they don’t have to “count down” therefore automating it.

[Inemia-wyrmrest-accord]

@Freydis-eldrethalas

It makes it so they don’t have to “count down” therefore automating it.

what? no it doesn’t

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

What? No it doesn’t.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

Nah, ‘people like you’ is nothing near ‘these guys’. Try again.

it sure is lol it just doesn’t fit your narrative.

[Freydis-eldrethalas]

@Inemia-wyrmrest-accord

what? no it doesn’t

So you count down your queues?