AS long as it’s part of WoW. Plunderstorm is not WoW.
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No, this is you choosing to do it. Limited time events happen, you CHOOSE to either play or dont. Welcome to life.
Plunderstorm was a bit of a rocky start for the idea, but part of me does kinda hope that they play with a few more “game” ideas in the future. Like, there were datamined strings at one point suggesting a Vampire Survivors mode, and I’d be all over that.
Variations on things like Prop Hunt, Town of Salem, an in-game version of Small World of Warcraft, etc.
Of course, this would mean there’s a chance they’ll do an Among Us where some players were secretly Dreadlords or something.
Gee, this sounds a lot like Shadowlands. How’d that work out?
The issue is that they decide what they want to do, then they find players who they can use for feedback, who they can predict will like that feature. They create that feature basically for those players, without considering how well they represent the playerbase. If the feature turns out to be unpopular with a lot of players, they may dig in their heels and try to make it work by doubling down on what players hate about it.
They need to do research before they start designing. And they need to stop hyping new features with misleading information intended to deceive people who wouldn’t like the new feature into buying a sub, then unsubbing forever after they find out they got took.
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The ideas and concepts are there, and they are actually pretty decent. They just fumbled the ball right before they could cross into the endzone. Their marketing team and their secrecy failed them miserably.
Then how should people describe ten billion things you don’t want to do, but are (blank)ed to do, to get things you need, to do the stuff you do want to do?
Brewa didn’t even mention it but that king crab thing from Plunderstorm is pretty unique and I don’t think it’s an overstatement that you might be crippled in certain fights in pet battles unless you get one.
When the devs try new things a minority of people will howl, whine and cry. They will convince each other that they speak for “the community” when actually they don’t.
I’d say go for it, mix things up, make it interesting. There’s always Vanillia Classic for people who can’t stand anything new.
I do a lot of things in an MMO, and they aren’t always necessarily things I enjoy doing. But if I want the reward, then to me it’s worth the struggle. As far as Plunderstorm goes, the struggle isn’t even worth my time, so I don’t bother. That takes a lot from someone like myself who will typically go through almost literal hell for just a single cosmetic. If they make the Plunderstorm farm much, much easier then I may change my tune.
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I feel like I need the pets so I’m going to try. But so far I’ve calculated that the max renown needs about 500 hours. Idk I may be wrong. But I think you’re right as far as Plunderstorm goes. It’s excessive.
So Here’s the issue with your thinking. You don’t “need” the stuff. you “want” the stuff. Therefore because you want the things you need to do the content to get the things. Green is my favorite color. Last season’s gladiator set had a cool green hunter tier color. Guess who didn’t get it because they don’t pvp? ME. I don’t pvp so i don’t deserve to get something I’m not willing to put the effort into getting. Blizzard did not FORCE me to get the gladiator set. Because I am an adult, I decided im not willing to do the things I dislike for something I’d like for a little bit and never use again.
If you don’t want to put the effort into plunderstorm to get the things from plunderstorm then that’s fine. If you do want the things, then you just simply need to engage.
Not having a singular pet in battle pets isn’t going to cost you the match. But here’s the thing. If you like battle pets, and you want the pet, then you think to yourself. Do I try the mode, maybe have some fun with it while I get what I need? Or do I sit on the forums, and complain about how I’m “being forced” to do something I don’t want to do? The word forced has a definition. This isn’t it.
Instead of saying forced if you want to say what’s really happening in that you feel it’s unfair that’s fine just say that. No one can take away you feeling like that, however unfair and forced are two different things, And sometimes sadly life is unfair. I got covid and missed the winter’s veil event, guess what? Life is unfair.
There’s no issue with my thinking. I am asking you how to describe something fairly simple and you just wrote two paragraphs telling me how I’m wrong.
That’s what I’m doing. And frankly I think grinds are part of an MMO so I don’t have the same issue with Plunderstorm as most people do. I wish there were MORE grinds.
But that doesn’t mean that the issue of being “forced” (insert whatever word you prefer) to do content you don’t like isn’t an issue.
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There’s also a difference between being forced and feeling forced. For most people, it’s the latter instead of the former. Blizzard knows that they can prey on their players’ FOMO mentality with relative ease. That’s how we got here.
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How was Plunderstorm forced? And please don’t say cosmetics.
I will accept that Torghast was forced, absolutely, 100%. I will maybe kind-of sort-of say that M+ is forced if you min-max. But in what way is Plunderstorm forced? M+ or Raiding players have no reason to need to acknowledge it exists.
Translation: “You people should just stop caring about the game.”
Pets aren’t cosmetic anymore.
Look at Glamrok. LOOK AT IT.
It can use Greed and then blind the target, which is a VERY sick combo as it takes the damage boost to the opponent out of the picture.
The fact that it has Deep Bite (which increases every time used) that also combos well with the blind, is just more icing.
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No? The tranlation is: play the content you want to play, and dont play the content you dont want to play.
Translation: stop saying stuff is forced when you really just think it’s not fair to have to pvp for something when you don’t like doing it.
Something we can agree on for sure.
It’s just simply not forced at the end of the day. Blizzard made an event just like we have for hearthstone, winters veil, and all the other seasonal events, even trial of style. You pick and choose what you want to do. The issue here is people think it’s unfair so they say they are being forced when in reality they just want something for nothing. I’m sorry, that’s just not how the world works. (im not saying you do, but saying most of these people this is their issue. )
Example:
Trial of style is mega fomo only comes around 2 times a year for like a week or two, but you don’t see people freaking out on the level of plunderstorm. ITs easy, you can afk and do it or watch the kids and do it, or watch a movie… so no one freaks out, but god forbid you play something new and try something new forums and twitter freak out
Okay, then what is it?
Scenario #1: There is no reason to play Plunderstorm other than you like Plunderstorm and have fun doing it.
Scenario #2: There are some lasting rewards for playing Plunderstorm but they’re all entirely cosmetic.
Scenario #3: You’re legitimately worried you might find the content you want to do more difficult, or even impossible, if you don’t play Plunderstorm.
Scenario #4: Because of the anxiety of people in group #3, they have enslaved you at gunpoint and they will shoot if you don’t play Plunderstorm.
Now, you call ONLY case #4 “forced” which is fine, as long as there is some way to describe cases #2 and #3, because it’s simply weaselly to object to calling cases #2 and #3 forced, and then act like they’re equivalent to case #1.
So this is what mental health issues look like btw. This isnt forced, this is I need to see a therapist. If we know anyone in category 4 i hope as friends we are suggesting this lol…
Its really not though… because this
Won’t happen because games in their nature, especially MMOs that have something to work towards, needs to provide something to work towards. There is almost no system in wow in which you play and get nothing from it. You are either always getting gold, flight stones, fragments, tmog, mounts, pets, toys, achievements or a combo of the above. Every limited time event (holiday events and anniversaries) have things attached to them. Should we just never get rewards for anything, then?
Having something to work towards in an event doesn’t make that event somehow forced. Because even if we said ok cut the renown in half and take out all the tmog leave only pets and mounts or reverse that… people would still complain about the same stuff. the wow forum and twitter communities have a “i cant” problem anything new that’s added, everyone comes out of the wood work and says they can’t do it for X reason. Dynamic flying for an example. After a month, those people go back into hiding in time for the next event Plunderstorm. lol simple as that.
They should definitely try out a forum upgrade that would auto hide ignored characters new threads.
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