Should Twinking be deemed breaking TOS for Exploiting?

Not enjoying a single aspect of the games experience does not mean you dislike the game on the whole. Most of the content I enjoy is at end game, and retro-content, which i prefer to do at max level because I enjoy farming the old raids. Its what I enjoy doing. So getting to the point of doing what I enjoy doing as fast as possible is a bonus for me.

for real like why not just pay money and have someone else do it if u hate playing the game so much like i bet they hate raiding for loot and wish it was just a weekly slot machine they could just pull the lever on and that was it

not to mention how much easier leveling has already been made it ridiculous

I don’t hate everything about the game. I’m also not asking for leveling to be removed because I know some people love leveling.

I play this game for the social aspect of playing with friends in discord.

I think pet battles are dumb because if I wanted to play Pokémon I’d play pokemon. I don’t think it should be removed.

Twinks aren’t making the game worse for everyone. Twinks are one of multiple things like speed running and skips that a minority of people hate.

The people that don’t want fast dungeons are imo a minority

There’s also no meaningful gameplay there. All you’re doing is questing and running dungeons, but it’s largely the same quests and dungeons that have been in the game for 5-20 years. It’s not current, there’s no real meaningful progression outside of getting closer to level cap when the game actually picks up. The point of leveling is entirely to get to the point where you no longer have to level.

I’m not one of the people who thinks leveling should be removed from the game, and I do enjoy parts of it from time to time, but that doesn’t mean it needs to take 50 hours to get to level cap.

I enjoy retail quite a bit. Even enjoyed timewalking for the first few weeks of this anniversary. Turning it into remix-lite is a fairly new thing and I’m fine with just writing TW off as something I won’t do anymore.

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Timewalking hasn’t changed to be more like remix, the twinks have just figured out how to optimize themselves to the breaking point. Plus, this will calm down again once the anniversary is over since most people wont be mass leveling alts and farmers wont be smashing into it so hard for tokens and the mount.

every what, 13 runs you basically get an extra 500 tokens for free if you’ve bought all the other gimmicks that the anniversary came with? And people are surprised twinks are hitting this extra hard right now while they can?

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funny u think one even has to try that would imply effort kek

I mean it has and the scaling changes are why they are optimizing this way now.

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Exactly. I’m a performance based person. If I’m running the same content over and over I want to be at max level and working on improving my performance.

If I do 1.5 mill overall on my 622 warrior over the course of a dungeon I want 1.6 the next.

Can’t do that leveling and doing trivial content.

Same.

What’s really funny is you think you’re smart.

yup, if people want to slow level, theirs ways to do that. Unfortunately the only way to get the really slow leveling like classic had, is to go back to classic. Blizzard themselves thought leveling took too long so they made it easier to level several times.

Who honestly cares?

You are a tiny minority and catering to people like you is exactly what drives so many people away.

It’s just a game…

It’s foolish to put so much value in something that likely won’t exist (in any meaningful way) in 10 years.

If people want to enjoy the leveling process, they have every right to complain because it’s really bad rn.

that sounds like exploiting to me

And it doesn’t to blizzard so your opinion on it is irrelevant.

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actually i know i am

and knowing is half the battle

Yes, and that person knowingly chose convenience over control when they signed up for a random dungeon. Not everyone is going to play the same way, and that’s just the nature of a random group.

I’m sure you’d agree that Blizzard provides plenty of tools for players who want to shape their own experience. They can form their own groups, use the vote kick feature, or level outside of dungeons altogether. The tools are there for anyone who wants to use them.

The core issue is this, people complaining about twinks want the convenience of RDF but they don’t want the “downside” of the RANDOM part. They for some reason expect everyone else to play exactly how they want to play.

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Maybe read the context. I never said anyone cares.

The majority of people dislike leveling hence why blizzard made it faster.

It’s not anything super meaningful now. You’re not making a very good point.

Not really. They have classic if they want a slow leveling experience or they can use the lfg tool to find like minded people to level with.

They can even form leveling communities if they want.

non timewalking is still significantly slower than timewalking right now, there are basically no twinks in normal dungeon queues. Follower dungeons also exist that you and your buddies can go through for slow queues, and the twinks arent nearly as rampant as people are making them out to be.

no ones saying that slow leveling should go away, theirs ways to participate in slow leveling if thats your kick, questing is still a thing and they even made timewalking to each zone so you can stay in your prefered leveling expansion the entire time, but there are plenty of people who want to fast level, and having ways for them to participate too is fine.

just like its fine to have ways for people who want to grind certain content to have that ability to do so, if someone finds it fun to be an 11 twink and grind dungeons all day and get tokens, hey, all the more power too him, you’ll see him for 5 minutes and probably never encounter him again unless you reque with him.

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I’d say that’s projection because the people that don’t want the random part are the ones that are going to eliminate it by twinking and solo the dungeon in 5 minutes on their twink.

Not everyone does play the same way, RDF is in fact random, so expecting a standardized “fast leveling experience” out of them is the mentality of not being able to handle the random part.

Fwiw I certainly don’t think any rules are being broken or that it’s against ToS (that’s ridiculous) so if people want to brick the game for themselves and others that is up to them. I don’t have to play with them so that works for me.

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No, don’t take the twinks away from dungeons. Makes me happy when I log into a dungeon I’ve done countless times and there’s a level 11 standing there.