I’m sorry that context is apparently hard for you to grasp. Doing whatever hobby you want for 15 years or 25 years is whatever. Being mad about said hobby 4 years after something was changed is unhealthy. I can’t dumb that down any more for you.
And you being mad about people being mad isn’t unhealthy? In what way are you not the pettiest one here?
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Ironic since you’re literally commenting on any post I make… You may want to check on your deflecting.
As an actual Hunter player, who wants to see the class improve, I am here for an actual reason; to give feedback. Furthermore, with you always inciting the ranged vs melee discussion in threads where it doesn’t exist, responding to you is a good way to get the feedback out there and into as many threads as possible. So thanks for initiating the discussion everywhere you post.
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The edited statement is definitely better.
Look, you have a very good point. And I even agree with you to an extent — I’ve seen how unhealthy addictions (of various natures) have ruined people’s lives. You’re absolutely right.
However, people are not going to listen to your point of view as long as you continue to antagonize them, belittle them.
Want them to cool down and actually listen to your comments? Show them basic respect.
It works, it really does.
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dude is delusional. i don’t even read his posts anymore.
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You don’t need to put the same “feedback” in every thread on the forum. This isn’t a hard concept to grasp.
While i think survival needs some work i do love the fantasy of it and i think its a cool idea. That being said I get why there are so many here that want ranged survival while also understanding that blizzard wont revert it, so best option is 4th spec for hunters.
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That part doesnt come from the devs. Its a whole other section that decides it.
Yeeep.
Its always the same 3 crusaders, which are really closed to anything else than what they say.
Yet you deem it necessary to go into every single Survival thread and insult everyone who wants ranged SV back, and if they aren’t discussing ranged SV you incite the discussion just so that you can insult them?
And it always seems to be the same few trolls barging in and doing nothing but complaining about people giving feedback about the class. You call us ‘crusaders’ because we want an addition to the Hunter class that would benefit everybody, yet you don’t see yourselves as crusaders when your sole purpose on these forums is to seek out and deride anybody who wants this universally positive addition to the class?
What are we supposed to be ‘open’ to about your position? Your position is nothing, absolutely nothing, but hatred and bitterness. You don’t want ranged SV brought back as a fourth spec why? Gee, I’m sorry that I’m so closed off to your hatred of the Hunter class and ranged Survival in specific I guess.
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I know. But in the end, it’s you that control your Internet experience. You can either decide to pick on them until they snap back (thereby starting a fight), or you can just ignore them and treat all the posters with respect. You’re much more liable to get good discussions this way.
I know that I’m much much more willing to respond to you and Darkeforge (apologies if I spelled your name wrong) when you guys are totally focused on discussing points without insults.
Is it annoying? Yep. Does it get old? Yeah. But in the end, is it worth it to continue to provoke them?
Only you can answer that for yourself.
EDIT: and we even have an example of this! There was a really interesting discussion between Arkade and Bepples in which they were respectful of each other. They’ve proven that it’s possible. 
Nearby context clues in my original post (as stated multiple times already) suggests that I was defending blizzards design choices because I enjoy the current design of the spec. End of story.
I see that you want to hang me for using one simple word… but if you enjoyed something wouldn’t you “feel the need” to defend it amongst the cacophony of voices screaming for the death of your preferred spec?
Consider the viewpoints of those who feel and think differently than you. It’s possible to like something that Blizzard has done and defend it without being a “fanboi”. The two are not synonymous.
So will you defend Blizzard when they inevitably change SV to something completely different from what it is now? Like they did when they changed it from ranged to melee, and when they changed it from being only melee to being a ranged/melee hybrid?
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Nearby context clues in my original post (as stated multiple times already) suggests that I was defending blizzards design choices because I enjoy the current design of the spec. End of story.
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I think what is important is not where it went but where it came from. It’s not healthy to drastically change a spec so many times, even if some people like the new variants. It’s unreasonable to defend the choice to delete a spec just because you like the spec it was replaced with. I’d be fine with their design choices too, if it wasn’t drastically changing a spec from what it was prior.
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No spec was deleted, Survival is survival.
Drastic change : Changes that changed the way a spec plays.
Specs that got that drastic change:
Shadow Priest
Demology Lock
Survival Hunter
Discipline Priest
Enhancement Shaman
Elemental Shame (sort of, but not as much as the others)
SV not unique. Yes, I stopped playing my Shaman after the change, miss the old style… but I accept it and moved on. Its a game, I’ll just play something else I enjoy and love.
For the first time ever I’m considering changing mains. I’ve mained this Hunter since the very beginning in vanilla but dislike the lack of attention being paid to my class. I liked rsv, I liked msv in legion and have tried to like bfa’s version but it’s just lost me. I dislike BM because of the relative simplicity to it, and mm doesn’t feel good with losing my pet. I honestly wouldn’t care one way or another if they kept it melee or moved it back ranged as long as it were interesting, just at least look at it, I don’t think it’s current state is the best it could be either direction.
4th spec seems like the best option, but I doubt we get that this late in development.
Everyone is saying the same thing about their class when they “Feel” they aint doing enough to get the changes “they want”.
Which ever variety it has, there’s a group that likes it and another that dont. You prefer Legion’s SV , that’s fine. Got your reason. I prefer the current one, so much variety. Different ways to play it.
Wouldn’t if it was early too, no major changes coming to SL classes. Was repeated multiple times.
Blizzard themselves mentioned that no change was as big as the changes to SV. They didn’t just remove some abilities and add some new ones. SV was deleted, no matter how much you hate the Hunter class.
Saying that it wasn’t deleted would be like saying that Arcane wasn’t deleted if it was replaced with a melee DPS spec that fights by imbuing staves with nature damage and applying DoTs to multiple enemies at once. That would be a fundamental change to the spec on the core level. It doesn’t even resemble Arcane anymore, regardless of whether or not you call it Arcane. Arcane Blast? Gone. Arcane Missiles? Gone. Arcane barrage? Gone. Arcane explosion? Gone. All talents that have anything to do with arcane damage or ranged spellcasting? Gone. All replaced with completely new abilities that in no way function anywhere close to old Arcane’s abilities.
Well guess what, that’s exactly what happened to Survival. Nothing was left. Explosive shot? Gone. Black arrow? Gone. Lock and load? Gone. Serpent sting? Gone. Ranged attacks? Gone. All talents that had anything to do with dealing elemental damage from a range? Gone. Survival was replaced, not ‘changed’. Abilities were removed, not ‘changed’. If you say otherwise then you are about as reasonable as a person who would say that Arcane wasn’t removed if it was literally replaced with Feral.
Blizzard lies all the time. Also doesn’t matter. They can bring it back next xpac. It’s important to make sure they know that we still want it back, even if naysayers demand that it not be brought back for no reason.
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Shame, huh? 
I’d add the DKs to that list, honestly. All 3 specs used to be able to tank when DKs first came out in WotLK. Then Blizzard changed it so that only Blood DKs could tank.
Oh, and Combat/Outlaw rogue.
I’m curious, though. Why do you not consider the change from ranged SV to melee SV to be a massive change?
(Blizzard really should have changed the spec name like they did with Combat/Outlaw.)
To me, changing from using a ranged weapon full-time to using a melee weapon full-time is a pretty huge change, never mind getting into the toolkit.
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