I think Retribution should have a sword. Maybe because as a priest, I can carry a mace, but I don’t really think of priests as warriors. We’ve got a melee weapon more as a last resort, for the most part we’re going to be casting during a fight. Ret Pallies are probably the most martial of the specs, though, and so I think a sword is just more appropriate.
I prefer a sword, but either can go with ret paladin.
He had several paladins on different servers, all named Clark using funny vowels. I think at one point he rolled one that wasn’t named Clark to get away from the association.
He occasionally posts now on a classic character.
Paladins have a Judge’s Gavel visual theme going on with many of their spell graphics. WC3 they used maces exclusively, specifically hammers.
Axe all the way for me!
I really havent though, your claiming something about seeing it from the same person. But your not, i have made a thread about hammer vs sword and thats it. I then found this thread while looking up lore.
Also who make a rule of when a person can necro or respond. Until the thread is shut down, anyone has the right to leave a comment yes ?
Must be since they allow it, you can claim what ever you want. But it was an intresting topic that i saw and responded too. And i will do so in the future so as i put you and your needless complaining on ignore, you can put myself and any commets i post on threads on ignore as well.
And everyone can move on and be happy.
I think for me i switch between the two depending on my mog/spec.
I tend to lean towards 3 hander hammers. It helps with undead (dks included) while also does some serious damage to everyone else.
I think a hammer can look pretty menacing, if the right one is used.
WoW Paladins have generally used both. In the RTS they wielded hammers and even from vanilla our level 25 quest had us craft a gorgeous one, but the most iconic Paladin weapon is the Ashbringer which is a sword.
It depends on what aesthetic you’re going for. If you want to be really into the RP, I feel maces fit Holy more and swords fit Retribution. Prot goes either.
We also had a quest to get the Lightforged Blade. There have been Paladin weapons of both hammers and swords. Unfortunately, hammers are categorized under maces, and non-hammer style maces feel less Paladin-like than hammers do to me. On the other hand, though, there are some nice looking hammers among the selection of maces.
But as I said earlier in the thread last year, it just comes down to the personal preference of each individual. Those claiming that their own preference should be “the default” for everyone are being too arrogant, and that’s not a Paladin attribute we should pursue!
I mean honestly, i can see both. I want to go into more hammer focuased rp. But what stops me is learning to fight opponents who are equally skilled that are armed.
How would we parry, or block a swordmen coming at me.
Its one thing to just start swinging a hammer and bashing undead. Its another when i have a dk infront of me and we are exchanging blows.
Thats really the only thing that makes me hesitant towards hammers
I believe it’s the opposite of what you’re implying. With one-handed swords, you parry with a weapon’s blade by guiding the enemy weapon across it (rather than what you see in movies where the swords hit perpendicularly). When it comes to greatswords though, it’s not a thing because the haft is too short and the weight of the sword makes it unwieldy to parry. As far as I’m aware, it’s only possible to “parry” with a two-handed weapon with an axe or mace because they generally have long hafts you can use for that purpose.
So kind of like sliding one hand down towards the pommel, and one towards the head of the mace, kind of like blocking with a staff. Im trying to picture it in my head.
Yes, that sounds about right.
Ok so as long as the hammer’s haft is made and crafted with good materials, then it should be reasonable to block with the haft?
Intresting, thank you that has helped, appreciate your perspective
Ummmm, that’s exactly the very reason for the existence of the Order of the Silver Hand.
Ummmm, is there anyone that has actually made this claim??
Just ask Turalyon and Uther.
Paladins dun… kill?
Heck a paladin is like a exorcist of demons and undead and we aim to KILL these anyway, just not pointing our weapons to our fellow allies and the weak.
I dun care what we end up using so long as that demon 15 yards away from me is dead at my feet. That said i am a sword person and have always mogged swords along with some Axe. Not a big fan of huge blocks of iron as my weapon.
No, I guess not. I suppose I should look at my own arrogance, lol.
Not exactly. The clerics of Northshire being nearly wiped out made the Alliance realize that they needed something better, so they recruited the knights of the realm and trained them to use holy magic. Until the retcon that made Turalyon a priest first (which really made no sense, as he was the least pious and most martial-minded of them all), all of the first Paladins were knights.
Not quite. In the book itself of Tides of Darkness from 2007, Faol himself directly states: “I will establish a new branch of the church, the Paladins. I have already selected the first candidates for this Order. Some were knights before but others were priests. I chose these men for both their piety and their martial prowess.”
Only Uther and Saidan were actual knights previously before becoming priests. Tirion was a warrior but Turalyon was only a mere priest. The entire point of the Order was that priests on the battle field could not protect themselves as evidenced from the Northshire tragedy. And mere warriors weren’t good enough, thus the idea of combining the two.
That’s why being a Paladin is a special thing because everybody can’t just become one.
Yeah, that’s the retcon. In Warcraft II, the following was said about Turalyon: “Turalyon was one of the first Knights of Lordaeron to be trained as a Paladin by Uther Lightbringer. Although Turalyon is a firm believer that order can be maintained only through extreme martial discipline, he is honored by his friends and foes alike. Turalyon was among the forces that Lord Lothar led into ambush at Blackrock Spire, and secretly harbors a deep regret of his inability to save the great Knight.”
And it says this part under Uther: “Uther discerned that the Archbishop’s new Order must be able to defend the people as well as heal them. Thus, young Uther took up sword and shield and issued the call to the most pious amongst the Knights of Lordaeron. Many great Knights heeded Uther’s beckoning and joined the Order which became known as the Knights of the Silver Hand.”
It seemed odd that they retconned Turalyon into a Priest, because of all the founders he was the least Priestly of them all. But I guess that made better “drama” for the book.