It’s sad too that you can’t even attempt to have a rational discussion with them because tank players are so far out in left field like flat earthers or something.
Assuming you aren’t trolling why do you think it is about a win or a loss
I do not care about the win, I could go 6-0 with a tank every time and I would prefer to still not play those matches
Every comp in WoW or class you can say that there’s something wrong or degenerate about it - and that’s the general argument tank players like to use. However here is my counter argument to that.
Just as if there’s something degenerate with every comp that one person or comp won’t like, if you go into a prison there are a wide variety of criminals (we’re assuming of course ones that actually deserve to be in jail, not small things like the devils lettuce). Among those criminals there are a class of criminals that are considered the lowest of the low that even the scum of the earth despise
That’s what tank players are in arenas. They are almost universally disliked due to their poor design no matter what comp you play. Even when people win they hate the game they just played.
I don’t see how you could have such a negative experience fighting tanks, to the point where you would act on it, especially when most of the time it nets wins, the matches are more fast paced, and the comps are WAY less cancer than meta comps you have to fight match after match after match. (minus blessing of summer, but that’s gone anyway for prot)
I haven’t been a tank player, literally my entire life, until this prepatch; and i have never attained this hatred for tank players in arena other than the meme of pretending like i care. I get against them, we win, the match is generally pretty exciting from a healer perspective because cc chains you’re not used to, outplaying them, and then you win. So no, i don’t see them as the lowest of low. I meme and say they take no skill, but really most comps don’t take much skill until you’re trying to break through 2800. I see 2k rated players posting on the forums as the lowest of the low. I see MLchi players, FOTM braindead faceroll comp players as the lowest of the low. Tank players didn’t cause everyone to quit all of SL, normal arena games did that.
Your destain is misplaced, time and energy wasted in an attempt to exempt tank players from enjoying solo shuffle because you perceive the match quality to be lower than the already horrible atrocious match quality in solo shuffle.
“man i hate playing with hunters. huntards more like, haha! we should ban them from arena, everytime i fight one its so boring, wow look hes going for a trap again; oop my mw ported it for the 3rd time, huntards never learn. man, i wish i could be fighting a better class right now like dh. hunters so poorly designed they’re so useless.” type beat
@ anyone else replying to some random part of this, if your text isn’t green and your words aren’t relative to the entire post with an insightful unique point, i’m going to ignore you.
How are you going to rating shame others while being so insecure about yourself and your own achievements that you supposedly post on a whole seperate account?
Solo shuffle rounds are 5 minutes max, with dampening starting at the 1 minute mark
Because all that really matters is just having a good match at the end of the day
The second you have a tank in the game it’s just a match where everyone is actually just in the middle of the map doing nothing lol
I’d rather just not play the game mode than have a match like that even if I’m winning, I want to at least actively try to coordinate and play better and solo que can also give a good way to create comfort in playing your class in a closer to normal 3v3 setting where you might need to be concerned about your own positioning, setting up your damage or peeling enemy damage
There’s just no good practice or anything exciting, it just comes down to being a W key fest
I mean just look at some of the tank designs even
Guardian druids just want to spam aoe damage while being immune to CC and standing on their team
Prot paladins are by far the best tank defensively and even give your team a very easily spammable magic dispel which alone ends up being a massive advantage for them queing into any tank. They give their team a ton of immunities that let people just play offensively while being unpeelable which is just an even worse experience when there’s no healer available because there’s no really peeling them.
If a blood Dk exists they have the option to keep a singular person hostage with spam grips either making a match a 2v2 which is stupid or just spam gripping someone into the middle of the team constantly
All of these basically just enable scenarios where everyone is just stuck in the middle doing some M+ aoe fight and if I wanted to do that I’d just que a mythic plus. It also means any game that has a caster is just instantly ruined for the caster and their team mates when a tank is involved because all the tanks I listed have not only an absurd number of anti caster mechanics but they also just generally synergize horribly with casters and very well with melee making it super boring when they’re both involved together
I’d rather just sit a longer que as a dps than never have to interact with them
I could be pushing the number one spot on ladder and be guarenteed a win in lobby and I’d rather afk out
I don’t actively try to participate in things I dislike, why would this be any different. Tanks have been designed with PvE in mind for years and the only way they get anything that allows them to exist in PvP requires the most obnoxious mechanics possible. I am not even fundamentally against tanks either, but they will not get reworked in PvP because their core still matches the design of PvE. I did not mind glad stance warriors in WoD. I don’t mind WoTLK prot warriors with no resil and full arp gear - they feel like another dps spec with good control and damage similar to say a WW, Feral, or an Outlaw rogue. We are LONG past these types of designs and current tanks are a completely horrid experience all around.
This was already the thing I had addressed. Everyone playing specific classes will have a other spec or comp they dislike playing against. This is something most arena players accept internally which is where the comparison to prison came in. Different criminals see other criminals at worse - but there are criminals that get near universal disdain.
Every competitive player I’ve seen has the same sentiment no matter what composition or class they play. It is rare you get something that is nearly universally hated. But this also extends to players of all skill levels, I’ve seen similar disdain across the boards no matter what people play. The people that don’t mind tanks are the vast minority, and even still of the people that even like playing tanks they get the enjoyment out of knowing that the experience is miserable for everyone else not from actually playing it (see thugbear)
Why not just try harder? You tried pretty hard on the forums today, didnt ya. Imagine if all the whiners tried this hard in game. Tanks are fine. You’re handicapped if you require a healer in PvP.