I don’t care… Honestly, Im getting what I want, I don’t see the big deal. Retail sucks, but its not some… religion. Why does it matter?
If they want to spin their earnings calls, let them. Just give me what I asked for.
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Combined sub means retail tourists who will just not care about classic, complain to get changes, and probably be a nuisance for classic players.
No way to avoid that without separating sub. But that would be bad for business, so I see why they went this route.
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Except that they can go back to Retail at no extra cost, and didn’t have to pay for a sub to try it out. Meaning we might get a few who like it a bit more ‘vanilla’.
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I dont get why people think classic wont overtake retail.
Do you watch any twitch streamers or yt content creators? Virtually 100% of them all crap on BFA and are waiting for classic, the sheer amount of exposure classic will get from all of the top streamers even streamers not associated with WoW coming back for classic will be enough.
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Well no when vanilla was current you had to buy vanilla and pay a sub, as time went on they stopped requiring you to pay for every single expansion. Now all you need is a subscription to play up to the current expansion. Since they don’t consider classic a separate game it’s included in the base subscription.
No, I tried, but I ended up disliking all of them other than MadSeason.
Nothing new here, if streamers are any representation of the whole player base, then them wanting retail changed and getting hyped about the next “new big thing” is nothing out of the ordinary. Players are like magpies chasing after every new shiny thing they see and people have always been vocal about how WoW needs to change, even when it was in the state that Classic is going to be in.
Personally, I’ll be playing Classic over retail unless retail goes through some major changes that will probably never happen, but I don’t think the lions share or customers will feel this way. I believe most people want “NEW” and “FRESH” more than they want quality, and Classic cannot offer them that past phase 6.
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Yes, actually. Your license still says “World of Warcraft” and and, whether you wanted it to or not, it would add expansions based on what Blizzard was updating the client for. You couldn’t keep playing the 1.12 client, if 2.1 was the current active client, and so on. Regardless of whether you had the latest expansion or not, you had to use the most recent client in order to log in and verify your account, etc.
Classic is creating a second, separate build, built around a modernized version of a previous build.
There will be two available builds - one for Retail, one for Classic. Some folks here believe that means they are now ‘separate games’ that you have to pay more for. But, regretfully for them, it’s Blizzard’s game, and they’re giving us two builds for the same game, which now means we only need to pay one sub.
Meaning, one license.
Classic may share a sub with retail, but I believe that Blizzard actually did say they consider them to be different games. That is why there won’t be any crossover between the two games.
They do not consider them different games. We’ve been talking for months on these very forums and the same quotes keep coming up - that Blizzard does not want to manage two MMOs - it cannot be two different games and also be the same. They are not exclusive.
Same architecture, same support, same support staff will be working on both.
They have separate builds, with separate data, but a shared license, shared support. 50 characters per account on Retail, 50 characters per account on Classic.
I guess you missed this gem.
Maybe you just chose to ignore it Since it doesn’t mesh with your desires.
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Why would subs prop up BFAs numbers? You don’t get BFA with a sub. You get everything else. Derp
I’d ask him directly if that’s how Blizzard is actually handling it, but he doesn’t work for the company anymore.
And of course, you’re taking the post completely out of context, as everything you just linked is in regards to rewards and achievements.
And that said, we’ve got someone who still works for the company, and is in a higher position.
www.keenandgraev.com/2018/02/05/blizzard-doesnt-want-manage-two-mmos
I don’t get why people think this concept is a good thing. Classic will never reach the heights it did in 2006. Its a known entity with no progression path beyond Naxx.
If Classic outstrips Retail, there is no fallback plan. If Retail dies, it will bring Blizzard down, taking out Classic with it…
Personally I hope Classic gets a strong stable userbase, and Retail, taking elements from Classic’s success, becomes a shining star again in the sky. So that I can have Classic for as long as I wish.
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World of Warcraft wont sink Blizzard if it fails in any measure anymore.
Not while they have Hearthstone and Overwatch.
Everything I’ve read from an investor POV isn’t painting good pictures for Heartstone or Overwatch. Hearthstone is beginning to lag against MTG and Overwatch is fast losing ground to PUBG and Fortnite.
No point arguing about it, they’ve already decided to give the game to retail…the people who campaigned so hard to stop it from being made. Real vanilla fans would have happily paid for it, and contrary to your belief, they legally could have.
Enjoy our game. Hopefully launch survives the dumpster fire and it’s still playable by those of us that actually wanted it.
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Classic doesn’t even need to reach a 1/3rd of what it did back in 2005 to have more than current retail.
Nor will blizzard go under if this happens, they already made bank tricking tons of people into spending 60 bucks on BFA because legion was an OK expansion.
Why do people want to see retail fail? Because it’s hot garbage and seeing a re-release of their over 10 year old state beat the current ver is about as clear a message the community could ever send that they are catering to the wrong people and are totally ruining the game with dumb ideas.
I mean i was raidlogging and doing 1 mythic 10+ a week so early in the expansion it was a joke. the only people that even bothered sticking around where those that can handle doing arenas all day, other than that the game is devoid of any content.
Yet private servers which are free cant break half a mil…
Also you dont know the sub numbers so thats great that you can make that up.
The numbers dont lie, classic will not have more active users than retail.
Also if you think retail has no content I have bad news for you about classic… there is FAR less to do in classic.
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Anyone who truly wants to pay a purchase fee or separate subscription fee can send those funds directly to me. I do not work for Blizzard and will not forward said monies to Blizzard. But I will be happy to satisfy your need to pay. Contact me in game for details.
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Pretty good reasons why though. I can give you some reasons why I never touched a p-server, although I was tempted at one point.
- I think it is un-ethical when all is said and done.
- I would never subject my computers to their code or installer.
- It is non-authentic. I want the real deal, not some knock-off.
Also, I think a lot of people just don’t want to bother with, what many sees as pirating.
Price alone, is probably the last reason why people don’t play p-servers.