Are they really that desperate to prop up BFA numbers?
“LOOK LOOK WE JUST GOT 2 MILLION MORE PLAYERS AND THEY ARE STILL HERE”
Im kinda sad they are going to use this to muck up the fact that classic will blow retail out of the water.
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Yup, it’s all about that earnings call
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It’s all about propping up those subscription numbers they don’t announce anymore.
They need to look better in front of shareholders with numbers they don’t tell them.
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It’s not so much they are trying to prop up numbers to show off, they are trying to retain subs so they can keep their profits up, That information is announced to shareholders. Sadly BFA has been a flop, and has been unable to retain players due to lack of meaningful content. I feel like Blizzard decided that they would sue Classic to try and retain retail players by offering them something else to do when they finish the hour of gameplay retail offers them.
I do think it’s a a far stretch to think Classic will blow BFA out of the water. MMOs are a declining market and have been for a long time. Classic style relaunches of old school MMOs isn’t exactly new either, several others have done similar things in the past few years. None of these games are pulling in all that impressive of numbers. I think Classic could have been a success in it’s own right, but it would have been a niche market. Unfortunately we will likely never know. I think the best we can hope for is a small community inside each Classic realm of dedicated loyal fans. Most likely the bulk of a Classic servers will be made up of retail tourists killing time until their dailies/raid lockouts reset.
I expect Classic launch will be a disaster, and as much as we are upset about sharding, I am starting to think we will actually see CRZs within a few months of launch as a means of fixing the train wreck they will have caused by releasing the game as additional content for retail instead of to the loyal vanilla fans that wanted it in the first place.
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The whales in the cash shop will smash retail and classic sub profits combined. Heck Susan with classic’s whales may smash all 3 combined.
#nomtx #tellbillyNOmtx #noSusan
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all aboard the Nonsense Sunday Train
chew chew
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Why do you care? If you never play Retail, you still have to sub.
I like a company that’s actually in business, running my game.
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Look, Classic will probably be seperate launch and Blizzard themselves can see who plays what, if what you expect is true, and Classic brings more people in than play BFA, that’s a good thing, might bring actual changes to BFA or whatever comes after, that’s more in line with Classic values. Classic isn’t perfect, what I hope most from it is the changes it might bring to current game, if it does well.
Can’t fluff BFA numbers if you haven’t bought BFA (thinkingman.jpg)
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I would prefer a standalone, reduced subscription price for Classic because I’m a cheapskate, but would much rather have a shared subscription than two separate full subscriptions. Which would have been an EA move, but they could have done.
It’s not a bad business strategy, I’m more likely to try the new changes in retail if I’m already subbed to it. Maybe I can do that while waiting to petition the Don of the Devilsaur mafia on his daughters wedding day.
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I’m fine with the combinde sub. I just think Classic should require a purchase. A sub only gives you access up to legion in retail, you have to buy BFA to play it. I think Classic should be the same. This would greatly reduce the problem with tourism. Obviously we would still have tourists, but it would at least be players that possibly have an interest in the game. The kind of tourism we will have from retail players that get the game for free is not the kind that will be healthy for Classic servers.
I already bought Vanilla World of Warcraft. I am getting a build of that game back. Why should I or anyone else have to buy it again?
No one has ever answered this without resorting to “well, retail players are getting a second game free!” But that is exactly what is happening.
The claims are that it will keep out tourists. No it won’t. If Retail fails, where do you think those players are going to go? You want people who only want Classic? That’s not going to happen. You’re going to get Retail players playing on your Classic servers, demanding Retail changes.
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You are adorable.
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What you “bought” was access to vanilla WoW, and you accepted the agreement that the game would change over time. What you bought access to is what you are currently playing as BFA. So no, you did not “buy” vanilla. Buying “access” to classic would be a separate purchase.
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They can’t possibly discount that the Classic community is going to be the source of these numbers. They’d have to dig their heads in the sand to do that.
Guarantee most all of the people who join the Classic servers will not be playing normal retail either.
Unlikely…
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While the shareholders may not care how you make the money, management will.
They will have all the data on how many stop playing BFA, how many go back, how many play classic etc.
For myself I’ll play classic but I’m still not buying the BFA expansion and probably never will unless it’s like 10 bucks.
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I have answered this question before. You bought World of Warcraft, and can still play World of Warcraft, currently they are on the BFA expansion. Classic is not 2004 WoW.
And if you read what I said,I’m not talking about keeping tourists out, even with a purchase we will have tourists, every new MMO has them and will continue to have them. The kind of tourism we will get from retail players having free access is something different, and it will impact classic servers in a very negative way. Most BFA players wouldn’t pay $60 for a game they know they won’t like, but most will probably troll around on it if it’s free. It’s not.like there is anything for the to do in BFA.
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I would just like to add that I think 100k classic players would be a huge success based on other recent classic MMO releaunches. This idea that we will hit 10 million is insane. It is possible that initial launch could number in the millions since it will only require a sub to play. But that will decline sharply after the first months sub runs out.
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You’ve been repeating this line for months, and it’s clear that you did not understand then, and you do not understand now.
You bought access to World of Warcraft, not Vanilla Warcraft, “World of Warcraft” and you agreed to play whatever version that Blizzard deemed available. If Blizzard deemed 7.3 to be the current client, that was the client you needed to patch to.
Nowhere does that license say that there can’t be two builds. You’re getting a second build.
Enjoy your Vanilla milkshake, bub.
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That implies it would be cheaper. If they had a standalone sub for the same price (which is perfectly legitimate) we’d expect a higher development team size etc. And then more Classic+ / TBC development.
A shared sub sets the expectation that we are an addendum to Retail, not a new product line.