Shame on Icy Veins (LFG addon promotion)

When it’s harder to find group members you have to settle for what you have. When you have to settle, because it could take you tens of minutes, if not hours, to replace a bad tank or a bad healer, you instead work with it and try to help them improve. Your first thought isnt “kick this bad player, we can replace him in 30 seconds with an auto-queue”

The problems with this addon and LFG is that it creates a hostile disposable human being atmosphere where you only care about winning and just kick people until you get the perfect player because it’s too easy and quick to replace people. People become objects, and not human beings.

Finding players to do content with needs to be hard and inconvenient or humans are treated as disposable trash and never taught or helped.

Source: retail, every modern MMO.

This is why LFG and addons that replicate LFG are horrible for not only classic, but the MMO genre as a whole.

Classic devs have said addons are fine as long as they don’t play the game for you. This addon doesn’t play the game for you.

“LFG addon” threads need to be condensed into one mega thread now for those that want to protest, which is perfectly fine.

Take a look. I am sure you have already seen it however if you haven’t…straight from Blizzard.

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Source: Retail - [not very valid for classic]

Unless I have a warlock in my party chances are I am not booting a “bad” player even then it is unlikely unless the individual doesn’t want to hear advice.

I have even kept people who say rolled on something they probably shouldn’t have just to keep the group going.

Kicking someone from your dungeon group in vanilla is a big hassle. Even if you could immediately replace the member who was kicked. The new member has to be ok with possible bosses already dead (maybe he wanted loot from the first boss). Once you found someone who is ok with where you are at in the dungeon. You now have to wait on them to arrive. Turns out someone else in your party is like well crap I don’t have the extra time to spare to wait for this guy and hope he works out.

My point being grouping in vanilla/classic is tedious and just because IF this addon exists it won’t make it like how it is used in retail. (it lacks the capability for starters)

I think we should have no changes, just like so many people are asking for. Since there was a LFG addon in Vanilla they should have them in Classic too.

Sorry, I don’t twitter like a schoolgirl. What does it say?

so your that type of person that uses that dumb memee oh you sweet x y z. pathetic.

This addon is just here to ruin our fun by retail babies.

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If you think calling me a girl is an insult…try again. Take a look if you are interested.

Nope, not calling anyone a girl as an insult.

I BUY FOODDUCK spam was so much more authentic than actually getting people to notice you had a transmute timer for sale or wanted to run DM-North.

I went to Esfand’s twitter, they are raging against the add on in the comments hehe. https://twitter.com/EsfandTV/status/1164608941852176384

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It appears they tried the Addon in retail? Correct?? If so, what we saw would happen in Classic…for sure this addon needs to be broken by Blizzard.

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It has an automated feature in it that can automatically place you in a group. Break it.

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  1. It can’t.
  2. An automated feature that automatically places you in a group was a part of World of Warcraft WITHOUT ADDONS since patch 1.3

It was broken. It didn’t put you with a tank, healer and 3dps. This is a horrible addon and needs to be broken.

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Screw icy veins…

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icy veins is one of the worst things that happened in wow history.

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The problem is the Auto Invite

wrong, you cannot be banned from RcR, only a GM can apply that penalty.

So where are “#nochanges crowd ?

All APIs used bu this addon were in vanilla.

So #nochanges.

Don’t like ? Don’t use it.

And BTW ilvl and gearscore are both ready to go for classic

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