Well then I demand closure for Camp Taraujo and the wholesale slaughter of the Stonespire 
Sure. And iâll demand the Horde to die for what they did to Gilneas. And theramore. And for the people of Hillsbrad. What do you got? Absolutely nothing.
oh no, the alliance town that has specifically gone after horde civillians since vanilla got blown up with extremely minimal casualties.
Sound the alarms. some buildings got blown up during a war.
(Seriously, theramore being overblown so hard while every incident of Alliance specifically seeking to kill Horde civilians is swept under the rug is obnoxious)
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Whatâs with the influx of level 10 druid posters that all seem to be posting the same complaints lately?
Is it some European discord group or something?
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And Taurajo were just a bunch of buildings as well. Why even bother posting if you canât be bothered to see it from the other side iâll never know.
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You literally get to see the death scenes of Alliance soldiers gutting civilians while firebombing inhabited homes and luring the survivors into hostile territory but you do you~
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Eh. The guy got to sit his rotund posterior on his cushy island with only the periodic bug infestation, far removed from and oblivious to the Hordeâs arrival, and the fallout of their various atrocities. Anyone can spout opinions theyâre not qualified to make. (gestures at literally any celebrity)
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That is an interesting way to call it, given that the idea of defecting was coming from the forsaken side.
There are some speculations, surrounding similarity of Halls of Reflections and Lordaeron throne room, that there could be a bigger reason behind why Arthas was âchosenâ by dreadlords / Lich King. If that is the case and there is something special behind Menethils, that would explain both targeting Calia, and getting rid of book about Lordaeron on the horde side, and, possibly, from the Scarlets as well.
Didnât Baine say something about it? Sorry, I do not know the details.
Well, I personally found it sometimes hard to get answers / comments on EU forums so I occasionally discuss things here. But itâs mostly about Calia and valâkyrs. I do not know much about the lore.
you guys are funny today
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Baine defended it in a random line in a book.
The Tauren people in Cata absolutely did not defend it.
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And we got to see everyone in Teldrassil burn to a crisp, as well a try and save them, and fail. And we aslo know they went to hell.
And do you know what happened to the people of Hilsbrad? They either died, or ended up in camps like the Sludge fields to be experimented on. But iâm sure you donât care either way.
The Eu forums are dead, and I finally figured out how to post here. Better to be somewhere there is activity, even if I have to deal with posters like this orc.
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Well, you did get to kill General Hawthorne. And you did get to blow Bael Modan up.
Did you have something else in mind?
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Yes. Jainaâs head on a pike.
She ordered one attack and supported the expedition that did the other.
I mean if you want the whole horde to suffer because of a last minute decision by Sylvanas that none of the current horde leaders were available to push back against, itâs only fair.
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So your issue isnât you didnât get closure. You just donât like the closure that Blizzard provided. Well, I can certainly agree that they are bad at providing satisfying closure.
It is, however, a problem that afflicts both factions, not just the Horde.
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If the Horde âsuffersâ from helping those they hurt, then the Horde should be disbanded asap.
Not to mention, I have not asked for the Entire Horde to be killed. I merely ask that they try and fix that they destroyed, or that in the future the Alliance will be allowed to use Teldrassil as a justification for war. That is all and everything I desire. Iâd settle for magically rezzing all those who died in Teldrassil as well.
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Weâre arguing the same thing really.
Iâm just using Morghelâs arguments for why he thinks the horde playerbase should be punished for X against him by making similar arguments about why the Alliance should be punished for Y. Him entirely discounting them out of hand is the point.
Iâm not legitimately arguing that the Alliance should be torn apart due to Taraujo, Iâm arguing that people demanding that the Horde playerbase suffer are being giant hypocrites.
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You may know that, but we have Alliance posters in this very thread saying Horde should feel bad for playing the faction. We should want to help the other faction because of decisions outside of our control.
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But youâre arguing that Alliance players shouldnât get any closure at all. Why? Canât you see how awful it is if we are forced to turn the other cheek once again, with the Horde having done nothing to deserve it?
But I never have. And I never will. I make a very distinct separation between the playerbase and the faction itself.
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When have I said that?
Youâre getting closure. Youâre getting a buttload of content between the expansions covering it, you got to retake your lands in BFA, and youâre going to hunt down Sylvanas and Nathanos in SL/Prepatch.
When have I argued for taking any of that away?
To quote someone else:
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Because itâs simply not enough. We kill Sylvans and make sure that the elves donât suffer eternal Torment. Hurrah. And we donât even know if that is going to happen. We donât even know if Ashenvale is still occupied. And might I mention Gilneas is still the same. And retaking lands you already had doesnât feel good. We still donât get to have any meaningful vengeance on the Horde itself, or have the Horde show to us that they have changed. And that shouldnât be too much to ask for.
Iâm sorry, but this just isnât enough. Not by an order of magnitude.
Or just have the consequences of Teldrassil be felt in the Future. Iâd gladly settle for that. But to you, anything beyond what we are already given is apparently too much.
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No, you canât always get what you want
You canât always get what you want
You canât always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need