Knowing Golden, she would make him say “yeah we did worst stuff and kinda we deserved that horrible event” if Orcs gets a Teldrassil moment.
It’s really sad to see this one sided bias with the horde while in Vanilla to Wotlk, we could see both factions have their bad and good heroes.
Is it? Seems weird to place Teldrassil on a pedestal atop every other atrocity in the game. Personally, I’m already over it and fine to move on.
Sorry, but I really wanted that 13 gold and cool bat
The doesn’t seem to be the Cenarius family’s way at all, as we found out from Remulos himself from an Island Expedition quest:
This root tells me all that I need to know of your voyage: an island, teeming with the life spirit, and you met keepers there.
I sense you are surprised at their actions.
Not all of us that guard the natural world see your kind as allies. There are many of my kind that seek to preserve the balance above all things. Even if that means your death.
I will not fault you for defending yourself, but I am powerless to subdue them as well.
However, my fawns have gathered some Azerite for you.
While the Horde spent what 4 years being duped by Sylvanas/Jailer. I mean if you want to talk about incompetency this was their second “the spirits lied to me” shtick.
I’m sure you have no problem moving on, because you don’t lose anything by doing so.
No it simply means that centaurs were offsprings of his son. This is what grandchildren means.
I think this is where I can’t understand horde supporters these days. Morally speaking you should want to make up for Teldrassil, you should want to give the night elves some things in order to prove the horde can be good. To do otherwise is to remain the murderous faction that is as unrepentant as the alliance often says it is.
In summary: You shouldn’t feel bad about doing good things just because those good things are towards the alliance.
Yeah, no. In a 2 faction game where we had no agency (other than to not play the faction we enjoy) I’m not going to feel good about groveling to the other faction because of decisions that were entirely out of my control.
I wouldn’t expect Alliance players to be happy about cowtowing to the Horde if the situation had been reversed either.
I think it can depend on the task itself.
I assume most horde wouldn’t be annoyed with a quest to let’s say, “locate Sylvanas loyalists hidden in Orgrimmar and take them to justice”.
It could be some Horde related activity that would benefit the morale of the horde without making it feel like they are doing just to please the alliance.
Whose justice? We’ve already seen Thrall handing Horde prisoners over to Tyrande so we know which direction the writers are going.
And does it matter who keeps the prisioner to you?
Isn’t killing Sylvanas an objective that will be considered successful regardless of whoever does it?
Yes.
Remember when Thrall told Varian he wouldn’t let him have Garrosh? Thrall wasn’t about to cave Garrosh’s head in with the Doomhammer in order to appease the Alliance for Theramore.
Yeah it’s honestly a…really stupid thing in WoW. We want X dead but only we deserve to kill them.
Fair enough, fair vision of things.
In general i feel that both factions doing good things wouldn’t hurt anyone, regardless of the bigger objective being self preservation or reparations.
Horde hypothetically moves on from firebombing Teldrassil: You think it’s a horrible tragedy worth damning the faction over.
Alliance actually moves on from racially genociding the belves multiple times: you don’t care.
It’s almost as if you want the game to kowtow to you, and you want to be a dick to Horde players under a flimsy justification that they’re somehow complicit for Blizzard’s awful writing direction.
The fallout from Teldrassil on the Horde side has already been far broader than any Alliance reflection of their wrongdoings.
I may not be much of a horde fan anymore.(I jumped that ship years ago when the worgen came out). But I do sympathize with the horde playerbase more than the alliance playerbase. 99% of the time, the horde players never asked to be villian batted and than have blizzard moralize to them, usually through an alliance leader like Anduin, why they suck for liking the horde.
That’s correct.
It’s not that complicated. Teldrassil is not exceptional and frankly I’m sick of the whinging, Tyrande can have her tantrum in SL and then we can be done with it.
Ok, Purge of Dalaran sucked and there should be more repercussion, but did the Alliance ever did something to Belves on similar scale another time?
Maybe it would make sense to eventually decouple the actions of the player character, to some degree, from the actions of the faction NPCs.
But of course. How else would the devs continue a faction conflict if the horde would be like “maybe after he deals that way with our enemies, Garrosh might do the same with the rest of us”.
If you’re about Jaina, I have no idea how it could make sense. She is all pro-peace now, so one would think this is a totally reasonable thing, to discuss old grudges after N’Zoth was defeated. I mean, if she wants peace, she maybe should make steps to address that thing?
Idk how this story supposed to work in the eyes of the devs.
I would argue that it is exceptional in a sense that right when the devs are talking about “prg-elements” there was no choice not in that event, nor soon after.
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