Shadowlands=Can no longer solo old raids

[Spodge-stormreaver]

I just want to be able to still one shot lvl 50 mobs with moonfire.

[Allaura-perenolde (Allaura)]

I do worry that the level squish will effect the “must be 10 levels above it” Transmog rule that allows me to get the normal classic style loot drops when I solo run.

With the limiting on the levels that rule will really hit hard unless they cut it to “5 levels”.

[Penni-dreadmaul]

Blizzard confirmed in a post a while back about how legacy content will play out. This is how it will work:

Allied Race: Level 10 (Land Mount Access)
Classic: Level 20 (Flying Access) (currently level 60)
TBC: Level 25 (currently level 70)
WOTLK: Level 30 (currently level 80)
MOP/CAT: Level 35 (currently level 85/90)
WOD: Level 40 (currently level 100)
LEGION: Level 45 (currently level 110)
BFA: Level 50 (currently level 120)

For legacy loot, it requires 11 levels to activate legacy mode. In Shadowlands it will be 6 levels. Once you hit Level 56 in Shadowlands, Legacy mode will activate for BFA. This should make it a lot easier to solo old content then it does now.

I highly predict heirloom items will change. No more xp bonus on the gear.

I also think pathfinder for old expansions may change.

[Dekoron-wyrmrest-accord (Dekoron)]

Unless they’ve changed their mind, even the devs said “It’ll be a faceroll.”

[Rdord-frostmourne (Rdord)]

Devs said the stat squish wouldn’t effect the soloability of old raids. They said the level scaling wouldn’t make leveling take longer. Why would you trust them this time?

[Normandias-durotan]

If this were Blizzard Entertainment from 2004-2012, I would be slightly more inclined to trust their judgement even if I had disagreements and concerns with the direction they’re taking.

The Activision-Blizzard of today gets little to no benefit of doubt from me.

I hope the people saying “things will be fine” are right. I sincerely hope so. But I’m getting as much of my Lore achieves and transmog/mount farming done as possible now just in case.

[anon24832510]

That’s odd, I thought Ion specifically said at convention that there would be no difference in this. I hope this is just a glitch, because there are many old raids I want to farm

[Rahkeetahp-aerie-peak]

@anon24832510

That’s odd, I thought Ion specifically said at convention that there would be no difference in this. I hope this is just a glitch, because there are many old raids I want to farm

someone said it. someone lied.
I just ran the same character thru ToS yesterday. Burned right thru it on retail…died a couple times on the PTR on the same boss.
You can beat it, Im sure…but it AINT ‘the same’ as retail is. Not by a long shot.

[Kyarlenthaya-borean-tundra]

Legacy loot is working on ptr I just zoned into a lfr legion raid to check.
I just soloed the first raid boss in nighthold to test it. My character is 445 item level had no problems.

[Rahkeetahp-aerie-peak]

@Normandias-durotan

The Activision-Blizzard of today gets little to no benefit of doubt from me.

Seconded. When they start taking stuff I worked for and proving they dont give two flipping squats about MY time investment, there is no trust anymore.
I trust them about as much as the ex wife. literally not at all.

@Normandias-durotan

I hope the people saying “things will be fine” are right. I sincerely hope so. But I’m getting as much of my Lore achieves and transmog/mount farming done as possible now just in case.

yeah…those folks said the same thing in BFA at this point. They were wrong.
There were plenty of screams in here and lots of “I told them so” responses.

[Jeane-galakrond]

This is not true. Old content will be soloable. The only difference is the cap of how many enemies can be hit with AoE attacks.

[Zalo-ysera]

@Nicodemùs-argent-dawn

To simplify the numbers, this means that, at a bare minimum , you’ll likely have to be around 34 to solo BC raids, 38 for WOTLK, 40 for Cata, 42-43 for MoP, 46-47 for Warlords, 51 for Legion, and 55 for BfA . As always, being higher than the projected minimums will make it easier.

Thank you for your post. This was helpful to me and good information.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

I am glad it was helpful but keep in mind it’s not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.

I only did some basic math based on how level 120 gets squished to level 50, but just because the numbers work out a certain way in the math doesn’t mean it will work out in-game exactly as the math suggests.

How Blizzard has determined the scaling works may not line up 100% with the math I have laid out.

[Astrien-emerald-dream]

@Normandias-durotan

If this were Blizzard Entertainment from 2004-2012, I would be slightly more inclined to trust their judgement even if I had disagreements and concerns with the direction they’re taking.

The Activision-Blizzard of today gets little to no benefit of doubt from me.

I hope the people saying “things will be fine” are right. I sincerely hope so. But I’m getting as much of my Lore achieves and transmog/mount farming done as possible now just in case.

You necro’d a ralph thread, and you have one post on this character.

[Eyescream-moon-guard]

@Shadina-gorefiend

We were told it would have no impact on our ability to go mount farming and the like.

We were also told last blizzcon from ion that “they here us” on class identity. Shadowlands = more borrowed power.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they screwed this one up either.

[Ðirestorm-goldrinn]

@Rålph-nagrand

Unless I am misreading something it seems that you will not be able to solo ANY old raids with a dps character in shadowlands.

If this is true this is great news

@Rålph-nagrand

If that is true it is an incredibly stupid move considering the amount of people who casually like to do old raids for transmog and that would pretty much make ALL old raids impossible until 10.0

Oh no, they will have to bring their friends with them, how horrible.

@Rålph-nagrand

And if they dont want hogger to be one shottable imagine raid bosses…

No boss should be one shottable. A boss by definition is experienced at fighting. There is no reason why a creature that is a challenge to trained soldiers to be killed in one hit by the player. It makes no sense why a player should be able to solo the LK.

[Enrico-kromcrush]

Chromie time is for levelling.

You can solo REALLY old raids. WoD is a bit harder, Legion Raids are VERY hard, and BFA raids need a group.

[Paladinhm-dalaran]

@Shadina-gorefiend

You’re mistaken.

No he is not … You are mistaken believing that Shadowlands will not suck. Shadowlands will suck so bad you will call your mama screaming! You wont be able to do old contents for gold as well Blizzard was always cheap on those issues never given gold to people why would they change that now ?

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

You realize you’re responding to a 9 month old comment where we have new information, new concerns and such, yes? This thread was necro’d by someone with one post. You’re responding to something completely outdated.

[Juuhachigou-tichondrius (Juuhachigou)]

Didnt they say they want to adjust it so people are able to do it with a party that only needs about 5 players, including a tank and heal? So no need for a full raid group.