Unless I am misreading something it seems that you will not be able to solo ANY old raids with a dps character in shadowlands.
Since all old content will SCALE UP TO 50, it means that even if we are 60, we would only be 10 levels above and 10 levels was never really enough to solo previous expansion’s raids until maybe the end of the expac for dps and mythic raid mogs.
If that is true it is an incredibly stupid move considering the amount of people who casually like to do old raids for transmog and that would pretty much make ALL old raids impossible until 10.0
Got this from wowhead
" With the level squish making all currently level 120 character turn to 50, and all expansions scaling up to 50, will suddenly old content, like Hogger, be challenging for my now-120 character?
That’s a good question, we’re going to figure out a lot of details as we go through. Our intent is that, if you have already progressed all the way through a lot of the content in BFA, Hogger shouldn’t 1-shot you."
And if they dont want hogger to be one shottable imagine raid bosses…
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You’re mistaken. Blizzard already said during the deep dive panel that they know people want to do old content and the like and the level squish will not impact that.
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They said you will interact with chromie to regain your massive power difference over raids if you want ot run for transmog instead of running it at level. Something called “Chromie time?”
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Doing old content is very different from “you can solo old raids”
Especially if they go through the excuse, “we dont want you to one shot stuff, we want it to feel like it matters by being challenging”
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They said you will interact with chromie to regain your massive power difference over raids if you want ot run for transmog instead of running it at level. Something called “Chromie time?”
[/quote]Oh if that is a thing then it should work
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It is. Everything will be fine. The last thing Blizz wants to do is kill people’s capability to do old content and solo it because a huge chunk of the player base does that. We were told it would have no impact on our ability to go mount farming and the like. It’s fine.
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You missread it everything then.
All the content will feel and be the same as now.
But instead of saying level 130 it will say 60.
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If they’re squishing the levels, they’ll likely squish the number of levels you need to be over, to be able to walk through old content. So instead of waiting until 60, you may be able to do old content with no fear at 55 or so. 58 seems more likely.
I don’t think players and devs understand the massive complexity in doing a level squish, because its not a level squish its wow 3.0. This could possibly break the games for months if not years. I am not a fan of this level squish and op is right you won’t be farming raids this expansion it seems. Not because they don’t want you to, its just the game will break. Hopefully not lol. I do like playing wow
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It’ll probably change to five levels higher because of the level squish being halfed.
Let’s be a little less pessimistic. The last item level squish went off fine. Scaling and things like party sync have worked fine and seamlessly without an issue. Blizzard is fully aware that old content pushing and things like that are done by a huge amount of their player base. They’re not gonna bust something like that, and if they do accidentally bust it, then they’ll fix it in a timely manner.
People who do old content get more love than people who compete at high end arena. It’ll be fine.
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This is actually untrue. I don’t know all the details, but according to MMO Champion:
“Character power won’t change, you’ll still be able to solo old content as you do now.”
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Hopefully, they remain true to their words.
I hope it goes well. However I will miss the daunting adventure of levelling. Imagine in the future where you would need 200 levels to get to end game. That future now will never be. However I do like this new system. I hope they get it right.
You’ve confused that… they say Hogger will not one shot YOU, not that you can’t one shot hogger
Also…
Doesn’t mean “it’s already figured out”
Also, after the squish 11 levels is equal to 50/120 x 11 which does not equal 11
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I can see them doing it if it means inflating that /played metric.
Enjoy grouping for LK.
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While I can’t be 100% certain it will work this way, I am going to go with the assumption that Blizzard was being honest when they said we would be able to solo the same old raids post squish that we do today.
So, simple math tells us that 1 level post squish equals 2.4 levels of current wow.
For the purposes of soloing old raids that would mean vanilla raids which used to cap out at 60 would be the equivalent of lvl 25 post squish.
Normally we need to be 11 levels higher than a raid to even consider soloing it for transmog hunting. Post squish this equates to about 5 levels higher (5x2.4=12).
So assuming Blizzard was being truthful when they said we’d be able to do everything we do today post squish, you’d have to be level 30 (the equivalent of level 72 today) at the very least to solo Molten Core and other vanilla raids.
To simplify the numbers, this means that, at a bare minimum, you’ll likely have to be around 34 to solo BC raids, 38 for WOTLK, 40 for Cata, 42-43 for MoP, 46-47 for Warlords, 51 for Legion, and 55 for BfA. As always, being higher than the projected minimums will make it easier.
Because the level cap is going up by 10 levels from 50 to 60 in Shadowlands, and assuming the 2.4 current levels actually does equal 1 Shadowlands level, the added levels in Shadowlands would be equivalent to giving us 24 more levels making it possible to solo BfA raids at 55 (though more comfortably at 60).
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Instead of solo farming irrelevant content for rare mounts and transmogs youll need to group up and do it proper you say?
Im ok with this. So long as drops are relevent
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If the things I’m seeing in this topic are true I hope this means we’ll be able to get Legacy loot on BFA raids when SHadowlands drops.
Sigh…
Where’s your ‘The End Is Nigh’ placard?
Please. Once you get to 60 all of the raids will be just as soloable. In fact it might well mean we can get legacy loot mode in BfA raids (and they’ll probably be easier) because everything not current is 50.
What, you think they are going to completely break a VERY popular hobby that people engage in?