Feel free to look all of the expansions up on your own time.
What suddenly makes your time more precious that you cannot explain?
simply put, we have to pve less to keep up with pvers in pvp.
which was obviously causing issues for pvpers.
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Weâre not asking for the âbestâ gear.
Look at my toon. Virtually all of it is from the getting conquest through random BGs, invasions, and chest farming. I havenât done a single rated PvP event all expansion.
I donât need the very best, but I do need competitive. BfA offered that without the need to do arena. And now theyâre just taking that out and making us do rated.
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So when was Honor gear competitive with Conquest gear?
And again, why did this system work in MoP?
How is that different than any other content?
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It doesnât matter why it âworkedâ in MoP, only that it didnât in WoD which prompted them to change it.
Did you read my post? Are you aware that currently in BfA you can get Conquest gear by slowly farming it in BGs, and then getting a piece of gear every week? First its ilvl 100 then its ilvl 115.
The blue gear rewarded from winning bgs is irrelevant. Itâs the path to getting conquest gear needing a rating requirement which before it did not. Thatâs the problem.
You have provided no examples to show that it didnât work in WoD. And it 100% does matter why it worked in MoP. Because what theyâve been doing in both Legion and BFA has hurt the PvP community.
1400 isnât even remotely difficult to get at all. You can spam queue Arenas and get that without even having a mouse to play with. I hold the belief that Conquest shouldâve remained in Arenas and RBGs. And I point to MoP because when that system was present, players still took part in regular BGs to the point that it even rivaled LFR in participation numbers.
inb4 everyone realizes that pve gear will still be made to be better than pvp gear.
Then why have it in the first place?
It wasnât there before.
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I suspect because Blizzard didnât want the requirement to be so high that it would be off putting for newer players to even try and create a gap between players who were more casual and those who actually played Arena more seriously. They want Conquest and the upgrades to be through Rated PvP.
Iâll fix this for you:
Because they want to funnel unrated players into rated PvP, because almost nobody wants to do rated PvP.
But it wonât work. It never does. And in six months theyâll have to abandon it and come up with some way to get people back into PvP because by then theyâll have abandoned it.
I know I will. Iâm not wasting my time doing the abortion that is arena. Iâll go do PvE and I suspect most unrated players will as well.
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See you keep saying this but then deny that it matters when it did work in MoP.
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It is just a summary of the PvP system on beta with the revised great vault tables which people have been complaining about all morning, well and a streamer who thinks it is grand for reasons.
Isnât that just what PvP servers were before Warmode? PvE mode but with a chance of players to kill you?
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MoP was eight years ago.
MoP inherited a different player base with different expectations. Itâs pointless to analyze it. If the MoP system was so great, why did it fail so hard in WoD?
TL;DR. PvP gear progression now ignores random BGâs and only rewards rated PvP. AKA they just destroyed PvP for a lot of people. GG. SMH. đ€Š
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Exactly.
And theyâll fix it eventually, when their participation numbers inevitably tank. I just wish we didnât have to wait that long.
What I mean when I say that is that the open world is essentially the same. Same World Quests, same rewards but itâs a bit more. To me I think they couldâve been a bit more creative to make a mode that is akin to PvPers. Like Planetside 2âing the whole thing with bases to take over with a currency for purchasing cosmetic rewards.
Iâm aware this is a personal preference and stance though.
What information do you have that it failed in WoD? Also when you say it never worked and I show you when it did, itâs a valid stance.
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iâm osrry but that is not what ppl wanted
people should be doing pvp and earning the gear via winning. not by being noobs and losing match after match.