Shadowlands non raid content is apparently a minigame for mythic raiders to abuse

Fairly sure those 3IL difference isn’t going to double anyone’s damage.

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He doesn’t even understand torghast which makes it even funnier.

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16-23ilvl difference m8, its 3 below heroic

Nah im confident people like you are the minority. You are something beyond casual. You are not a person who can be pleased so they should just abandon your mentality and focus on people who want to play the game

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Cool. I mythic raid on a 4 hour per week schedule. So I guess we have a path for casuals to get end-game loot and CE.

We’re done then yes?

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Ignoring the weekly chest?

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Him and his alt Shiyo both seem to have a tenuous grasp over the entire situation tbh

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I find this interesting. You point to FFXIV as a place doing it right, yet you’ve conceded that you either do Savage, or do the 24 man to get the items to be able to upgrade to max ilevel in that game. If you don’t want to raid there either, you aren’t max ilevel right? (If you want to argue the Alliance raid isn’t a raid, it’s no different than arguing that LFR isn’t raiding either).

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Just…stop. Please…

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This is Ralph we’re talking about. Obviously he’s going to ignore the 226 gear from mythic+.

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His whole persona is raging about high-end players and then when faced with a good point he just ignores that person and keeps ranting.

He flip flops from Blizzard hater to Ion’s #1 Fan. I just wonder where he’ll go to next.

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And from rated PvP…

Though to be fair, as I’ve said before… PvP really should just be separate.

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He has a point.

Why does the hardest content reward the best gear?? Clearly they need that mythic loot to do their WQs and AFK in org

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The funny thing is that there are people who seriously believe that. I was told the other day by some other user that Mythic Raids shouldn’t reward the best loot, but reward the best loot the fastest out of the other options.

Like that makes any kind of sense.

There’s just no world that you can say that Torghast, Visions, or whatever, are as difficult as Mythic Raids.

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I wouldn’t be shocked if your right then the first patch drops fixing all those mistakes they made.

Lol wut they removed all gear drops from Torghast really? if so im loseing interesting faster then BFA soon lol!

Come on say it with me. Randomized chests are not progression. Is the lottery considered career progression? No.

Raiders have a clear path to gear - they kill bosses, eventually they will get their loot. And hell, they even get a weekly chest at the end of every week. What do people that focus on M+ get? Nothing. Gear worse than heroic raid. It’s a joke. But it’s okay, there’s a weekly gamble to see if I get an upgrade.

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Actually the great vault rewards 226 which is on the same level as mythic.

I’m giving shadowlands 1 patch to see how stupid or not it is in regards to what you said.
Why they need to have 4 tiers of epic gear is beyond my understanding. It would be fine if the had honor/conquest and blues/normal/mythic quality. It just leads to obsolete content faster, and greater disparity. So dumb

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There’s a choice of 3 different pieces of gear. It’s not really a gamble.