/shrug
I liked WoD.
Seems to be a contradiction.
Also if your not raiding what need do you have for raid lvl gear? Furthermore (as others have already mentioned) any activity you do outside of raiding will provide you with a means to acquire better gear such as mythic plus or PvP. Heck even world quests will provide better gear over time. This honestly is a non issue.
Shadowlands looks nothing like WoD.
It does look awful though. Just in different ways. Never been less excited for an expansion. So less so that I havenât even purchased it.
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You get it man. You hit the nail on the head. People often argue in creative ways to conceal truth even from themselves. Mythic raiders and raiders in general always love to spout about how it isnt about the gear but in reality we all know it is a major reason people raid⌠The reality is if gear didnt matter to raid loggers we wouldnt have a firestorm of complaints about any gear with usefulness being available to casuals. Wait till the masses find out how expensive legendary items are going to be in SL.
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Yes raids are DUMB I think raids should 100% optional since theyâre only good for transmogulation anyway.
Give us something else to do besides dumb raids please thanks!!! Like maybe some people like to PVP and donât want to bother with a RAID!!! Hello ION!!!
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Yes man a large part of the player base fails to understand we can have both meaningful world content and raids.
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If the highest ilvl gear you can get from M+ chests isnât better than normal raid boss loot, then pretty much nobody will do M+. A M+ with the same ilvl loot as normal should be harder than normal because you can repeat it without a lockout but not by a large margin.
I agree with your statement, I just want some better world incentive. I dont want a nerf to raid loot or any loot for that matter.
Classic. Classic is dying because it will never be updated with a new expansion. Few new players are coming because there is no catch up and the hurdles for a new player (leveling, gear, and attunements) are huge. Please donât misrepresent what I was saying. Vanilla was originally designed to be a one shot deal. Big changes had to be made to give wow longevity. Classic is the modern recreation of Vanilla, with changes according to what devs now think it should have been.
This is one of the things Im really disappointed with in this game. I loved crafting up until about Cata, then after that it just became progressively less and less meaningful (or profitable).
Random enchantments, levels, expulsom, and crazy mat costs for low ilevel gear, all of that gradually killed it.
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If a certain type of content require more investment, then it should provide better reward. I fail to understand what people are seeing to be a problem here. This is an MMORPG with an already small learning curve and nuance. If your spite is the necessity of socializing then this game was never for you. Nobody is keep you from anything except yourself, and there is likely a group and guild for you somewhere if you spend time looking than on here lamenting.
Theoretically the WQ rewards scale up, but you have to scratch, bite, and claw your way up, getting several pieces of gear that is the same as what youâre wearing, hoping and praying for that 5 item level upgrade HOPING it will tip you over the line to where you suddenly jump up a tier.
Like, all of my characters are being offered ~60-63. They are wearing 66 in most slots (Benthic). These pieces are not going to raise my I-level unless I get offered a ring/trink (exceedingly rare). So, yeah, the WQ system is dead once you get to Nazjatar.
Also, trying to wade through overtuned mobs is not something you want to do on a crafting alt, as a catchup mechanic. It just isnât.
Thatâs the kind of thing you do on your main while it is current content.
Iâm curious about this, as I geared all my alts on 66 Benthic gear as well⌠each of them are getting offered ilvl 72(?) gear? The first couple that popped up before they had the gear still had lower ilvl, but once they reset or were completed the next offers were higher?
Iâm not sure what mobs are over-tuned for ilvl 66?
Iâm amazed by the constant henpecking in here, these fools just donât get it. If they can get the same gear in a similar timeframe, then no one will raid ever again. It will destroy the game just so these sooks can feel special (while waving their fingers at raiders for measuring their self worth by ilevel). I have repeatedly had my motivation to raid crushed by this free gear handout stuff. 8.0, with cross server mythic raids, I go in a few weeks and get some kills and gear. A couple of weeks later, warfronts are handing out the same gear. I think to myself why am I wiping 20 times a boss to get what people are getting in impossible to fail content and therefore stopped mythic raiding. End of the tier so whilst annoying, it wasnât the end of the world.
Then we had 8.2 where the handouts were thrown out before the raid even started. I barely lasted 6 weeks. I just quit most of 8.2. There was only one boss before Aszhara that offered an upgrade for me due to the Benthic gear.
Meanwhile these clowns will, in bad faith, argue they just want progression systems, and they donât want handouts, they donât mind if it takes longer, but they deserve gear to. And then the systems are put in place i.e 8.3 visions, and those same people whine endlessly about it. âWhy canât we farm it endlessly?â er because raids canât be farmed. âWhy does it take effort?â. âitâs too hard, all the mechanics are annoying ⌠waaaahâ. They are full of it. That was the fairest system. The vision system was a fair progression and clearly took people longer to gear up, which it should. Benthic tokens were just rubbish. It was a dud system that handed out gear for nothing.
Meanwhile these same people, with a straight face complained about the gear in LFR being too low for the effort when they started get smashed by Nâzoth, because they judged it against their freebies. Yeah no joke, we told you that in 8.1 and you sneered at us. Theyâre a joke.
YOU fail to realize you can have both.
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Which content is harder though? Mythic Dungeons or Mythic Raids?
If one is harder, then it should give better stuff; nothing else matters.
It amazes me how players like you put so much effort into blinding themselves to the truth.
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That you are a sook?
You raid or Liam Neeson will pay you a visit.
Ive been hearingg shadowlands has an insane amount of stuff to do, but a lot of that stuff is just optional and for fun or enjoyment. For example there will be a few things to do that has a weekly cap, once they are done your free to do what you want and dont have to worry about the âmandatoryâ stuff until the following week.