Send the Battle Chicken out to pasture

[Slicy-netherwind]

@Ianarian-grobbulus

You don’t see any chickens in the Sunwell Plateau world first race.

Id take everything that happened in OG TBC and Classic with a huge grain. The playerbase was complete trash. Your average raider in a middle of the road guild right now would give those world first people a run for their money. Had they known what we know now they 100% wouldve been using it. They just didnt have the information and thats all that stopped them. Not some false sense of self righteous purity.

Im actually really happy that blizzard discussed it and decided to do nothing about it. Let the players choose. The content is doable without them if players decided not to use them. if anything this just brings melee in line a bit more and threatens those poor poor ranged apes stack meta (it really doesnt but its comical to watch). I am happy they ignored the people who are incapable of making adult choices for themselves and want sweeping changes to others enjoyment to fit their needs. Ignore them like you ignored the people who cried about worldbuffs. Both thought they did but are learning they didnt.

[Soada-westfall]

@Slicy-netherwind

Im actually really happy that blizzard discussed it and decided to do nothing about it.

I missed that. Where is it? What did they say?

[Slicy-netherwind]

[TBCC] What am I gonna do with allll these chickens?

I believe everyone in TBCC community by now is familiar with the whole “drums” change (at least anyone that cared about it). Drums were strong and desirable to the point that you wanted 4 people in your group to be able to use them. This led to Blizz giving the drums a 2 min CD so that players didn’t feel like they had to use a team of drummers. This is happening again with battle chickens. Thats right, the wimpy mechanical chickens spawned from engineering… They have a powerful 5% haste buff t…

TLDR: They see it, they talked, theyre just gonna watch it

[Soada-westfall]

They didn’t actually do nothing, though. They hotfixed the ability to keep stacks when logged out. They’re still discussing, I guess.

[Slicy-netherwind]

Yeah thats fine. Good change. But my favorite part is

“As goofy as this is, it is an authentic interaction, and one that some guilds did take advantage of in some way in the original Burning Crusade.”

All these clowns above saying it wasnt part of OG TBC then Blizzard comes in hot saying yeah people actually did do that. Im just happy that they decided to do nothing. I applaud them and hope they keep ignoring people.

[Gungeon-thrall]

Salty casters salty that they aren’t number 1 DPS and Melee is still good. Melee matches them on damage because they are willing to do degenerate stuff to play what they love and the warlocks crying because they were told by madseason they would be undisputed number 1. Keep it in, let the melee run wild its not like they are significantly better than a caster even with a 25% haste buff (which should tell you something about balance).

[Classyz-kurinnaxx]

The part that wasn’t tbc was the
Knowing how to proc it like we do now.

[Qbert-fairbanks]

@Qbert-fairbanks

I love reading through this thread and only seeing melee think the chicken doesnt need a fix.

yet another melee:

@Slicy-netherwind

I applaud them and hope they keep ignoring people.

my avatar is my shocked face

[Slicy-netherwind]

@Qbert-fairbanks

yet another melee:

Oh no the top dps class is concerned!

Shocked Pikachu

[Tonkadin-mankrik]

You could always quit. You cry and complain yet here you are, still playing lol. Show em whats up and un-sub.

[Erbitz-frostmourne]

Yea because we didn’t just see 2 years of brown stacks in classic. We won’t see any variety in classes in speedruns like we have in ssc/tk if chickens stay in. Just more of the same meta from classic.

With the right raid comp, furies are probably the highest dps class when they get armpen (especially with cd’s). You guys really think the highest dps class needs a 20 - 30% dps buff?? wtf are you smoking.

[Erbitz-frostmourne]

@Slicy-netherwind

Yeah thats fine. Good change. But my favorite part is

“As goofy as this is, it is an authentic interaction, and one that some guilds did take advantage of in some way in the original Burning Crusade.”

All these clowns above saying it wasnt part of OG TBC then Blizzard comes in hot saying yeah people actually did do that. Im just happy that they decided to do nothing. I applaud them and hope they keep ignoring people.

People have tested the chicken on both SOM and classic era servers. They found that they couldn’t get a guaranteed proc like in TBCC.

Something happened to the coding between classic and now. Chickens are bugged.

[Slicy-netherwind]

@Erbitz-frostmourne

Something happened to the coding between classic and now. Chickens are bugged.

Yet blizzard said that people took advantage of this in TBC.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You say bug. Blizzard says as was

[Erbitz-frostmourne]

They probably meant that there was a few cases of people prepopping on bosses and hoping for a squawk like what happened in classic vanilla.

They never said anything about guaranteed squawks in tbc and I would be very surprised if it was that way in tbc retail.

[Slicy-netherwind]

I mean they said they saw it, they discussed it and that

@Slicy-netherwind

“As goofy as this is, it is an authentic interaction, and one that some guilds did take advantage of in some way in the original Burning Crusade.”

That was their words as to why at this moment nothing was being done. That players were taking advantage of it. If it was some egregious out of line game breaking thing then during that discussion it would’ve been snuffed out. We can go see logs and find that its not even out of line. Ranged dps still destroy melee dps even with the chickens.

Non factor

[Erbitz-frostmourne]

@Slicy-netherwind

Ranged dps still destroy melee dps even with the chickens.

What? I can’t tell if you are serious. Fury is already doing about the same dps as ranged without chickens. Throw in a 500 dps buff (in p2 gear, more like 700 with sunwell gear) and there is no competition. Do you realize how powerful warriors get with armpen? Even so hunters still get a 100 ish dps from chickens so you can’t say that its just melee that benefit.

[Slicy-netherwind]

@Erbitz-frostmourne

What? I can’t tell if you are serious.

Sorry I was using overall logs (which support my claim) Vs some cherry picked stats where “oh no a warrior did good damage, change everything to keep our ranged overlords on top”

Non factor

[Erbitz-frostmourne]

If you are looking at overall logs then you would understand that the average is pulled down by melee in non optimal raid comps. Warriors who are not catered to will do less DPS.

[Slicy-netherwind]

Anytime you have to use a niche select group to make a point the argument gets pretty desperate. But i’ll humor you. Lets call warriors “W” and “?” will be our mystery class that doesnt use squawks. Lets see where they rank

80th percentile: W-5th ?-1st
90th percentile: W-4th ?-1st
95th percentile: W-5th ?-1st
99th percentile: W-2nd ?-1st

My god warriors only top out at 100th percentile. Is that the argument were going to use? That at the 100th percentile Warriors are kings? What a sad desperate grasp at straws.

Now tell me who ? is so we can talk about the REAL out of line class

[Erbitz-frostmourne]

I said:

@Erbitz-frostmourne

Fury is already doing about the same dps as ranged without chickens

At 90th percentile and above, fury is within a 10% average of the top dps class .That is close in my books . The point is this is now when warriors are supposed to be bad, with arm pen they will be at the top of the meters without chickens