Season of Discovery: Night Elf Rebellion

Ah the ancient, doomed practice of arguing morality on a forum. I am glad to see it is still alive and well.

Elven extremism is not really a new thing. The only thing they look down their nose at more than each other for 10,000 year old indiscretions is other species. The Rebellion concept is sort of how most elves should of responded to such an upheaval of tradition. Blizzard until now just put that part of things behind the curtain because gameplay demanded we all get along in our faction.

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It’s a very common fantasy trope that elves who live like…forever will view other races who don’t as lesser beings. That’s kind of just a catch-all for elves.

I think when people start seriously clutching their pearls is when they don’t separate themselves from their characters. So if they see the Horde, Alliance, Elves, whatever, acting in a way that they, a modern person with present day egalitarian western ideology would balk at, they have a little meltdown. Sometimes a big meltdown.

But it’s fiction. A medieval fantasy setting starts to feel boring and sterile if every sentient humanoid creature behaves according to present-day moral standards.

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People tend to just dislike to accept morality is very messy, bogged down in cultural relativism, and there is seldom if ever a clean cut bad and good box you can neatly divide things into.

It takes a lot less mental energy to slap labels based on ones personal inclinations.

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I can’t speak for Cruelmoon, but the comparison to Native Americans was more applicable to Warcraft III Night Elves attacking the Horde and Alliance for lumber theft than this character. Cruelmoon’s comparison faltered with this character because there are plenty of examples of unhinged Night Elves doing evil things in the name of superiority, so as far as Warcraft lore this character isn’t out of place any more than any other criminal from any other race in the game.

That said, while I think Cruelmoon was mistaken because of that, I don’t believe Cruelmoon was requesting the removal of this character, as Cruelmoon was applauding the inclusion overall.

TL;DR: I don’t know what you all are going on about.

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Neither was the Horde. They took what they needed for basic constructions. Even a single tree for the night elves was reasons to wage war. Blame yourself for once.

If we do native americans the Amani are the obvious candidates.

That is the difference. The Horde TOOK/STOLE things. The Alliance actually made deals with the night elves.

The only ones to blame are the Horde. Luckily they paid in blood for it and Garrosh’s is now double dead.

Garrosh died for being a tyrant. Like it or not no one but the elves care for the trees.

Garrosh died because he wanted to turn Ashenvale into Garroshmar.

The Alliance does. And it killed enough Horde to make them stop/at least slow them down. Any tree the Horde gets from Ashenvale will be blood red.

Not our fault really. Amani suffered a much bigger genocide so get in line.

Yes its the Horde’s fault. and I’m glad they had to pay for every bit of wood they ever got from it with Horde blood.

The Amani were planning on genociding the early humans/elves. The humans/elves were just better then them.

No. They attacked invaders that settled in a place belonging to someone else. The Horde isn’t even trying to claim ashenvale. All they want is some trees. This is the biggest genocide in Azeroth history. It’s funny you try to paint humans as victims and think the mana bomb was bad when this

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/1/17/Troll_Wars_magi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160317181754

Happened.

Which is called stealing.

Pretty sure Tedrassil and Theramore top it.

The humans killed troll Warriors/army. The Horde captured parents and civilians and kids.

Only soldiers died there.

Sylvanas, Nathanos and Saurfang were punished. Jaina is still free. Try to drop the privilige for a moment.

There is no law anywhere were gathering resources is considered a crime.

Almost the whole race and they never recovered. Without your magical plot devices from Medivh to Jaina you have nothing.

Clearly not. There were medics/and innkeepers and clearly Garrosh managed to capture civilians.

Jaina was literally thrown into Thros, a hell dimension by her own mother. She paid for her crimes. Which honestly was mostly the Horde fault.

He caught the ships who were already done evacuating.

Still alive. Rastakhan will be avenged once Thrall and Baine are dead.

Great, saves money on paint.

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Bonus points if it comes with spikes :blush:

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TIL, “ethnic prejudice is bad” is an idea that only the modern West came up with.

the writers from Cata onward certainly had difficulty with the concept of shades of grey, and don’t get me started on BFA…

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