The times ive done it personally its been 2 shot, my wife keft one last night though that was on try number 5 and still hadnt gotten past the split platforms lol
I’ve only done 3 keys so far this season, a +2 and two +4s, but they were very easy. In a couple of the keys there was one player who died repeatedly because they kept standing in mechanics, but even with that we +2 those two keys, and +3 the one where nobody did that. So I don’t agree that +2 keys are balanced too hard. If anything they are too easy. Seems like a +2 this season is way easier than a +12 last season.
Just did a 9 azure. It was easy af. When you have the “players” it is a breeze, but when one is a rotten egg it is a gg.
So it is a player issue. It is the early gearing issue.
Some spells are punishing waaay more than they should. I agree but it is a skill issue at this point.
And yet that happened anyway, despite no one specifically asking for this. Just as no one was asking for group loot but it was implemented.
There was, back in vanilla. Maybe read what I wrote. If you wanted to raid in vanilla, you needed to belong to the right kind of guild and be friends with the right people. I know you needed to change that, but it’s still true that’s how it was, and that’s what players were saying made raiding more epic.
I’d say a +2 now in current gear is about what a +15 was in S3 (in terms of difficulty at 490 ilvl). I’m sure once people get an extra 36 ilvl plus having all their raid BiS, it’ll be as easy as ever. If you’re going into m+2 and you’re not at least mythic ilvl from last tier, you’re undergeared and probably going to have a bad time.