Seal twisting is definitely not going to work

Yeah never could understand why they had to effectively copy the rogue combo point system concept (simplified) in Cata for so many classes, then in MoP even though I thought the monk was cool, basically copy the function of the paladin class almost directly but make it wear leather and give it rogue like CC.

Worse in WoD, they changed the rogue combo point system to then paladin system, likely so bad players could work out how to use rogue combo points or something stupid, as if everyone needs to use the same system? Why not just delete all the classes at that point when they almost all play the same?

Sorry, ranting, I despise the departure from the core of a class to something it never was… it’s kinda why TBC is so good an expansion, it was the same classes only with some needed upgrades, even if all the issues aren’t fixed it was still worlds better in that way.

Hope they pop up a TBC PTR soon, because I’d like to test.

OK, but a 10 ms batching window is not a good solution for that because it introduces tons of other problems and drastically alters class balance and gameplay in both PvE and PvP

not only does it make PvE encounters easier, when they are already very easy, it introduces all kinds of changes to the way PvP will be played at higher levels

all of this is being done in a way that is totally inauthentic to the original world of warcraft gameplay, and if the current vendor behavior is inauthentic then this is 100x worse

having more responsive vendors, while desirable, has another solution and is not worth this price!

Higher level PvP will be less reliant on batching RNG. That’s going to make it better, not worse even if some classes will get the short end of this deal.

On the contrary a smaller batch size introduces more variance whereas the current authentic batch size is large enough that intentional batching can be performed reliably

All of this is beside the core point that a 10ms batch size is radically inauthentic to original vanilla WoW as well as TBC, WotLK, Cata, and MoP

Forcing WoD, Legion, BfA, and Shadowlands batching window onto classic is the totally wrong and inauthentic approach

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So this is a batching change complaint and not really a seal twisting comment?

Report the spell. Allegedly they’ve already restored some tricks that were only possible with batching

Such as…?

Consistency is good and =/= easy. Reduced batching means added consistency and less RNG. This is a good thing

“High level” classic pvp. I lol’d

Welcome to 2021 I guess???

What are you even talking about??

I think it’s disengenuous to be worried about authenticity at this point in Classic given all the inauthentic changes that have been implemented.

I’m taking a break from queuing arenas on a TBC private server (where batching is a thing) to tell you that you are completely and utterly clueless

Go back to retail

I’ve played “classic pvp” at the “highest levels” with some of the biggest players in the game. It’s… not that hard.

But thanks for chiming in!

No you haven’t. You very blatantly and obviously don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

You didn’t address the fact either that batching matters immensely in the TBC meta. You’re likely another noob that thinks vanishing blinds is an accident or “RNG” and not something that players like Neilyo have done with perfect consistency since over 13-14 years ago. You’re peak Dunning-Kruger, mate.

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I ranked to 12. I bailed before 14 but its the same difference sans another month of doing the same thing over and over. I’ve put in literally hundreds of hours pvping in classic. And, again, its not that hard…

Imagine “ClAsSiC pVp Is hArD!1” being the hill you choose to die on :rofl: :rofl:

L-M-F-A-O

Like I already said, peak Dunning-Kruger

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Having a 400ms window to react is the antithesis of skill.

As previously stated multiple times that you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend, this isn’t about spending hours in vanilla BGs it’s about TBC arenas

Go watch any TBC era Neilyo video for the very intentional and very consistently performed spellbatching plays that were already being practiced and understood by the community well over a decade ago

Then go play arenas on any private server and observe how consistently the good players are able to use spellbatching to their advantage

This is one of the dumbest memes that constantly gets repeated in these forums.

WoW is a game with a 1-1.5 second gcd. Reaction has nothing to do with it. Skill in this game has literally nothing to do with reaction speed and everything to do with game knowledge and prediction/precognition.

Do you seriously, honestly, truly think Warriors are out there intervening blinds using reaction speed? It’s pure situational awareness and game knowledge. They saw the situation unfolding seconds in advance and came prepared with a gameplan to disrupt it.

I bet you accuse every pre-kicker of kickbotting because you can’t possibly comprehend how badly your positioning, movement, and the game situation telegraphed your intention to cast. (JK you don’t even know what I’m talking about because you’re not good enough to ever queue into those players)

The Dunning-Kruger crowd needs to stop posting in this thread.

Ok… Pretty sure you’re basically the only one talking about TBC arenas but sure… if you want to talk about this new and mostly unrelated topic then yea… TBC arenas do take more skill than classic pvp. :man_shrugging:

What in the world are you talking about. Holy cow.

Yea… And they’re reacting to something which tells them a blind is incoming… And if their reaction to that is slower than someone elses, due to innate reaction, lag etc… than that’s worse… right??

I’m sure Fourier analysis, PDEs, and tensor calculus often looks like gobbledegook to those who topped out in algebra 2

You should sit out the next few rounds I think. Its getting… :frowning_face: