Safe Space forum section

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

I’m not going to get into it. You’ll just have to take my word for it.

Or don’t, I don’t particularly care. I’m just letting that guy know not to waste his time.

[Fuzzbutt-zuljin]

I like turtles.

[Zelebrä-zuljin]

Not wasting my time.

But this is where it gets scary. We have seen this, in real time. People advocating for “safe Spaces” only for it to turn into “we have the power to silence those who oppose us/aren’t us”. We see this happening in schools and campuses more often.

We are seeing this play out in real time in real life. WHY would you want to go to more places to restrict speech, more and more.

We have already seen major company’s like Twitter before Musk had taken over, that executives were censoring certified doctors, therapists, nurses, and chemists and even blocking their accounts to, in their words “provide a comforting space” during COVID.

These are televised and recorded hearings that you can find on the internet if you don’t agree with me.

Anyhow,
just my 2 cents on this post. Same as any other.

[Forums-skeram]

In MMO Champion, they have an off-topic forum that was supposed to be a safe space. Mods actively post there and ban people who disagree with them.

[Vialdkaseun-muradin]

Sounds like a terrifying idea that blizzard would totally be into.

[Kiper-sentinels]

@Forums-skeram

I think what Kiper is saying, maybe I’m wrong, is that a place where the rules are enforced by the book, not based on if the mod is having a bad day. People can’t try and silence you by false flagging.

This sums it up, tbh. I’m really not sure why there were people who were confused or even wanted to argue about it.

@Zelebrä-zuljin

untrue, i can make many posts about this game, as ranty, unhinged and toxic as i can. Unless

There’s always the unless or the but in it, which makes my statement not “untrue”. You cannot post what you want here and expect it to last, or for you to last.

@Zelebrä-zuljin

But that is also a part of the forums. People are allowed to disagree or agree with me.

I never disagreed with this.

@Zelebrä-zuljin

my point continues to stand…WHY would you want this?

You wanting to know why I want something like this doesn’t mean your point stands.

[Zelebrä-zuljin]

@Kiper-sentinels

You wanting to know why I want something like this doesn’t mean your point stands.

Because if your whole point is to have a place where everyone thinks exactly like you, and you can censor/ban/remove anyone who has any other opinion or thought, other than yours that makes you slightly uncomfortable, then you’re just a tyrant who is only out for control and group thought. If your purpose is a “safe place where all (not really) can feel welcome” then it will eventually devolve into the above sentence. It always does.

@Kiper-sentinels

You cannot post what you want here and expect it to last, or for you to last.

Then i just make another post. The forums is just a place, it’s a thing. It matters not when i come or go. But what i make of it.

So back to my original thought…WHY. What compels you to further restrict speech so that only certain things can be talked about it a manner of your choosing?

@Kiper-sentinels

I believe a Safe Space forum section, that is heavily moderated, would benefit the community as a whole.

How.

@Kiper-sentinels

positive and “feel good” postings only

For control is the reason.

@Kiper-sentinels

No trolling, no harassing, no antagonizing posts, no disruption of off topic spam in threads,

im sure you can find MANY posts with this already available on the forums.

[Kiper-sentinels]

@Zelebrä-zuljin

Because if your whole point is to have a place where everyone thinks exactly like you

Where did I even hint at that?

@Zelebrä-zuljin

and you can censor/ban/remove anyone who has any other opinion or thought, other than yours that makes you slightly uncomfortable

You’re just making stuff up to push a narrative, I never hinted at this either.

@Zelebrä-zuljin

then you’re just a tyrant who is only out for control and group thought.

I don’t work for Blizzard, I don’t control anything.

@Zelebrä-zuljin

So back to my original thought…WHY.

You’re not going to get a further explanation than what is already in my OP. Take it or leave it, I don’t care. But, for the sake of the repeated question, here -

@Kiper-sentinels

I believe a Safe Space forum section, that is heavily moderated, would benefit the community as a whole. More posters may feel safer to post here as they would not have fear of being hammered down on with negativity that makes up a large portion of the General Discussion section.

[Rosenivy-area-52 (Rosenivy)]

@Zelebrä-zuljin

But this is where it gets scary. We have seen this, in real time. People advocating for “safe Spaces” only for it to turn into “we have the power to silence those who oppose us/aren’t us”. We see this happening in schools and campuses more often.

Meanwhile in the cases of say lgbt folks. Its like “yeah they’re probably pushy and gatekeepy sometimes but at least they ain’t murdering the non lgbt for existing.”

Seriously law where is my “cisgender panic” defense? Yall ( not you specifically just law folk in general ) made the “trans panic” defense and I’m still surprised thats still around to my knowledge

[Zelebrä-zuljin]

@Kiper-sentinels

You’re just making stuff up to push a narrative, I never hinted at this either.

@Kiper-sentinels

that is heavily moderated,

@Kiper-sentinels

You’re not going to get a further explanation

@Zelebrä-zuljin

you can censor/ban/remove anyone who has any other opinion or thought, other than yours that makes you slightly uncomfortable

@Kiper-sentinels

You’re just making stuff up to push a narrative,

@Kiper-sentinels

that is heavily moderated

@Zelebrä-zuljin

your whole point is to have a place where everyone thinks exactly like you

@Kiper-sentinels

A place where rules are strictly and heavily enforced.

@Kiper-sentinels

I believe a Safe Space forum section, that is heavily moderated

Yikes. it really writes itself.

[Shadowvixyn-moon-guard]

I’m so tempted to make a serious response to this thread. But I also know better. It’s one of those internal struggles kinda thing.

[Rosenivy-area-52 (Rosenivy)]

I’m just poking my head in honestly because the thread was still going after awhile.

[Zelebrä-zuljin]

Genuinely confused at what this is supposed to mean.

[Thistle-boulderfist]

@Kiper-sentinels

A place where rules are strictly and heavily enforced. No trolling, no harassing, no antagonizing posts, no disruption of off topic spam in threads, positive and “feel good” postings only, type section?

You’ve described the already-existing forum to a T.

[Tahonto-malganis]

Best way of getting a safe space, is by NOT asking for a safe space

[Kiper-sentinels]

@Rosenivy-area-52

I’m just poking my head in honestly because the thread was still going after awhile

Thanks for stopping by. There have been numerous reports but I’m happy that it’s been restored each time. I’m also happy to see that it’s still here and encouraging mostly positive discussion that has mostly stayed on topic.

[Forums-skeram]

Except the enforcing the rules by the book. I’ve seen so many posts flagged that had no reason to be while I’ve seen insults remain.

[Kiper-sentinels]

@Zelebrä-zuljin

Genuinely confused

[Tahonto-malganis]

You seriously didn’t think asking for an Uber ultra safe space wouldn’t attract trolls…

Do you also wave around a wad of 100$ in high crime areas asking people not to mug you?

[Shadowvixyn-moon-guard]

@Zelebrä-zuljin

Yikes. it really writes itself.

Do you understand where the concept of safe space comes from Zel? I’m genuinely curious where or how you envision a safe space is contrived and supposed to work.